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Is it permitted to enter and drink at a gastropub (or restaurant/bar). Assuming the drinks (beer/whiskey) are kosher and this applies only in regards to someone who holds by the Shach (that one is permitted to drink barley products amongst non-Jews as per an interpretation of the Rema.)

My question stems from the ruling that it is forbidden to enter a treif restaurant unless in extenuating circumstances (maris ayin). However a bar as seen above is a little more lenient. So what happens when you combine the two?

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  • What would be the problem if it's kosher? – Scimonster Jan 14 '15 at 18:50
  • @Scimonster see here problem of aris ayin and socializing with non jews. http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/2254/can-you-drink-a-beer-such-as-miller-or-budweiser-at-a-bar – TreeKing Jan 14 '15 at 18:50
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    Well then, i don't really see the difference between the questions. Is it because here there's also food? – Scimonster Jan 14 '15 at 18:54
  • related: http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/22622/what-does-r-feinstein-say-about-eating-kosher-food-in-a-non-kosher-restaurant – Charles Koppelman Jan 14 '15 at 20:11
  • very closely related: http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/29632/what-defines-a-non-kosher-restaurant-for-purposes-of-maarit-ayin – Charles Koppelman Jan 14 '15 at 20:12
  • I actually think this may specific case of http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/29632/what-defines-a-non-kosher-restaurant-for-purposes-of-maarit-ayin - Is there a distinction? – Charles Koppelman Jan 14 '15 at 20:19
  • A bar is more lenient??? Adderabba! Someone entering a bar is maris ayin for all sorts of bad things even if Kashrut isn't one of them – Double AA Jan 15 '15 at 05:44

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As discussed elsewhere, Rabbi Heinemann's opinion is that it's a problem if it's mainly known for the non-kosher stuff.

Do a reasonable amount of people go in there for just beer? If so, you should be okay.

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