Mi Shebeirach for one that is ill - if you do not know the mother's name

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Can one make a Mi Shebeirach for an ill person if they do not know the mother's name?

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/english-names-for-misheberach-for-cholimis-it-permitted take a look at "apushatayid"'s comment. — rosends, Feb 07 '13 at 19:33

score 5 · Accepted Answer · answered Feb 08 '13 at 00:46

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If they know the father's name they can say that instead (Yabia Omer 2:11).

If they do not know the father's name either, the Nishmas Avraham (vol. 4 42:13) writes in the name of Rabbi Elyashuv that they should say "bas Avraham" - see there at length.

I have personally heard "bas Sarah" being used rather than "bas Avraham".

answered Feb 08 '13 at 00:46

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This only works if they are Jewish. – Double AA Feb 08 '13 at 02:14
Does the Nishmas Avraham say we should say "ploni(t) ben/bas bas Avraham", to mention ploni(t)'s mother without knowing her name, or just "ploni(t) ben/bas Avraham"? – magicker72 Mar 03 '16 at 20:27
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Rav Soloveitchik in Divrei HaRav holds that l'chatchalia that one should use the father's name. – sam Mar 03 '16 at 20:31
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Why is this such a big deal? HaShem knows who it is. Just say the full name? – Yehoshua Mar 04 '16 at 10:36

score 3 · Answer 2 · answered Sep 05 '19 at 20:16

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If they do not know the persons mothers name or fathers name the Orchos Rabbeinu 1:218 brings from the Chazon Ish that one can say the persons first and last name.

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answered Sep 05 '19 at 20:16

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Mi Shebeirach for one that is ill - if you do not know the mother's name

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