Do the fruit-flavored tobaccos that are widely used in hookahs require a Kashrut certification similar to foodstuffs? If yes, why; if not, why not?
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especialy seeing that the Chayei Adom (127:3) cautioned against using snuff tobacco that was known to contain yayin nesech as an additive and The Magen Avrohom in Hilchos Pesach (467:8:10) prohibited using tobacco during Pesach, which was known to have been soaked in beer beforehand. – simchastorah Jun 24 '12 at 18:05
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from here http://www.oukosher.org/index.php/common/article/7762 – simchastorah Jun 24 '12 at 18:05
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3Isn't that ^^^ an answer? – Double AA Jun 24 '12 at 18:23
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that is a discussion of pesach kashrus – simchastorah Jun 24 '12 at 18:39
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Not the Chayei Adam – Double AA Jun 24 '12 at 18:41
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why not incorporate the "bear in mind" comment into the question? – Menachem Jun 24 '12 at 23:00
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According to the cRc they probably do. However I disagree. Se what I have written here. The same argument applies here as well, except with an added leniency: You don't know whether there is non-kosher stuff inside there, and even if there is, it is mixed into the tobacco and unrecognizable. Thus it could be said that even the Rema would agree to be lenient here l'chatchila. For further elaboration, see what I have written in this blog post.
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Dov you say that as a general rule that any foodstuffs read the ingredients and then if nothing is not kosher than you can eat it? – simchastorah Jun 24 '12 at 18:48
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or at least that what i have been lead to believe(unsure if it is true) rabbi Abbadi position to be that kosher certification is not really needed – simchastorah Jun 24 '12 at 18:49
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Correct, that is Rabbi Abadi's position. However what I was writing here does not need to come on to that. If you have personal questions I would rather you direct them to my email address or my blog; feel free to do so. – Dov F Jun 24 '12 at 18:55
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The question is if the vapor is considered zeah (steam) assumably the discerning factor would be if the vapor would turn into moisture upon its settling on a surface. If it is considered zeah than it would seem that the taste infused tobacco would need a hechsher. The Hookah acts as a mini oven where the Reach (lit. smell, it refers to the non-moistured particles of food that spread throughout the oven during the cooking process here it would refer to the smoke) is passed through the water (which smoothes out the smoke) and then is inhaled via the pipe. If the tobacco is not kosher than the water becomes not kosher (the water is rarely 60 times the tobacco). Even though intaking Reach is not considered halachikally eating, assumably intaking Zeah (which is considered of substance) would be. Therefore, the relevant question is if the water that becomes part of the smoke that is being consumed, is considered zeah, or not. This seemingly is not such a hard experiment to run. All one needs to do is to drag on the pipe of a hookah onto a surface and see if moisture forms.
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Hello Avraham Cohen, welcome to Mi Yodeya! Nice answer - consider adding links/sources to help us understand your answer a little better. – רבות מחשבות Feb 12 '18 at 03:03