For various purposes such as the one discussed in Source for finishing the entire Mishnayos for Shloshim, people organize projects to complete some section of Torah (e.g. an order of Mishna) collectively, with each participant taking a different part, and then for the collective to make a siyum on the whole section. Are there sources discussing whether this is a legitimate practice? One might expect that a siyum would be an appropriate celebration of one large achievement in learning as opposed to a bunch of parallel small ones.
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2Quite related: https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/9409/group-coordination-for-a-siyum – Rabbi Kaii Jan 04 '24 at 15:33
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Usually the hallmark of a "real" bona-fide siyum is firstborns breaking their fast on 14 nissan. I don't know that I've ever seen a group-siyum used in that fashion. – Double AA Jan 04 '24 at 15:56
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@DoubleAA It seems to me that saying the special Kaddish would depend on it being "real." – Isaac Moses Jan 04 '24 at 16:06
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Sdei Chemed..... – sam Jan 05 '24 at 04:05
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@DoubleAA how about Abaye's feast for the Sages in Shabbat 118b, and Rama on YD 246:26? Not in terms of a group-siyum, but as a "bona fide" siyum – Rabbi Kaii Jan 05 '24 at 14:45
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@IsaacMoses why? – Rabbi Kaii Jan 05 '24 at 14:46
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@RabbiKaii What about it – Double AA Jan 05 '24 at 15:02
1 Answers
Rabbi Lauffer at Ohr Somayach writes:
Is It Permissible for a Few People to Learn Different Parts of the Tractate and Make a Siyum Together?
Yes, it is (see Chavot Yair 70 and Maharshal). If possible, all those who learned the tractate should endeavor to gather together and to celebrate collectively.
On the other hand, in his chapter on the Nine Days (p. 59:n.48), Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen brings a machlokes between the Kinyan Hatorah B'halacha (5:52):
and the Vayivarech Dovid (1:24):
Rabbi Cohen (5:c:i) follows Rav Dovid Harfenes and paskens in the English section of the sefer: "Meat and wine may not be served at a collective siyum; i.e., a siyum celebrated after each person of a group studied a different section of hte same sefer. Even though every word of the sefer was studied, no one individual studied the entire volume."
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