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Please, I would like to know the meaning of the reshei tevot בנד"מ as found, for example, in a situation like בנד"מ דף י"ג ע"א. Thanks!

SimpleYid
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  • Doesn't it stand for b'nidon- e.g it is an abbreviation for "in our discussion or in this case". And then at the end, the reference. – Shmuel Jan 13 '23 at 11:22
  • בנ as b'nidon sounds b'nidon, but what about the last part ד"מ. You may be thinking of בנדון דידן b'nidon didan (in our case; in the topic under discussion; lit. in our discussion), in which case I believe the reshei tevot would be בנדו״ד and not בנד"מ. What do you think? – SimpleYid Jan 13 '23 at 11:30
  • That's what the page says- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hebrew_abbreviations#:~:text=%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%95%D7%9F%20%D7%93%D7%99%D7%93%D7%9F%2C%20%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%95%D7%B4%D7%93%20(b%27nidon%20didan)%20%2D%20in%20our%20case%3B%20in%20the%20topic%20under%20discussion%3B%20lit.%20in%20our%20discussion – Shmuel Jan 13 '23 at 11:31
  • Yes, and, what do you think? – SimpleYid Jan 13 '23 at 11:36
  • Personally, I haven't come across such a abbreviation. But, I think it is an reference to a source. – Shmuel Jan 13 '23 at 11:36
  • That's for sure. I understood it as well. I've seen this rather unusual reshei tevot in the Ohr HaChayim as well. Sometimes, these drive me crazy. – SimpleYid Jan 13 '23 at 11:38
  • Can you include a reference to an example where you saw this used? – Double AA Jan 13 '23 at 11:51
  • In Minchas Shlomo, by Rav Auerbach, this words are used when referencing to a source. When it discusses something, it is then said "in our case". – Shmuel Jan 13 '23 at 11:54
  • I did in the question itself. But I will add another. Here it is: אולם יש בענין זה שלושה אפשרויות שנזכרו בדברי רבותינו, והביאם הר"ן (בדרשותיו בנד"מ עמוד רפב). – SimpleYid Jan 13 '23 at 11:54
  • Yep Shmuel, we already agreed it is a source-related indication. However, I am still not sure of its precise meaning, in my weak understanding. – SimpleYid Jan 13 '23 at 11:57
  • Where does the phrase "בנד"מ דף י"ג ע"א" appear? – Harel13 Jan 13 '23 at 12:04

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As far as I can tell it means בנדפס מחדש, i.e. the reference is to the pagination in the most recent printed edition.

Joel K
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  • I agree with you Joel. I just wrote about this but somehow the comment I made is not showing. I said that this reshei tevto appeas in a reference to the Rashash's Sefer Nahar Shalom apud Kerem Shlomo, like this: . וזה לשון אבי התעודה שר שלום זלה"ה בספר נהר שלום דף ל"ה עמוד ב' ול"ו עמוד א' [בנד"מ דף י"ג ע"א], (כי כל דבריו הם מלוקטים מפיזור דרושי הרב ז"ל ולא ח"ו ממנו), וז"ל. The matter is this, the pagination used in the Kerem Shlomo reference is not the same as elsewhere, hence the parenthesis indicating an alternative and perhaps even more commonly used pagination of the Nahar Shalom. – SimpleYid Jan 13 '23 at 12:09
  • @SimpleYid - if you believe it is right upvote and click the checkmark – Dov Jan 13 '23 at 12:17