Shabbat songs that rhyme only with Hashem's real name

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Pronouncing Hashem's name in a song

Many songs we sing and the Shabbat table we use the word Hashem instead of Hashem's real name even when the song was written in rhyme or the tune clearly calls for the word Ado-ni as the clear word that rhymes. For example Tzur Mishelo. Where does this custom come from and why?

@Naftali I agree with msh210 in chat that while highly related, these two questions are not quite duplicates. — Isaac Moses, Jan 03 '12 at 16:33
@IsaacMoses haha that is not up to u ^_^ that is up to the community. — Naftali, Jan 03 '12 at 16:35
@Naftali What am I, chopped liver? Last I checked, I'm a member of the community and entitled to express my opinion. (And BTW, while I generally wouldn't, I am, in fact, empowered to overrule the community if I disagree strongly with its action.) — Isaac Moses, Jan 03 '12 at 16:36
@IsaacMoses do not dis chopped liver :-P You do not really have to state in the comments that it is not a duplicate. you can choose to vote or not to vote like everyone else ^_^ — Naftali, Jan 03 '12 at 16:37
@Naftali, everyone else is entitled to express their reasoned opinion in comments, too. (I happen to be borrowing msh210's reasoning in this case.) — Isaac Moses, Jan 03 '12 at 16:41
I'm voting duplicate because the other question already asks why they were put in explicitly if you shouldn't pronounce them. The proof this question brings from Tzur MiShelo is that they were actually explicit. I don't think that is such a significant addition to the question. I had already assumed they were originally explicit. Maybe the questioner can leave this proof as a comment to that question. [Edit: This was before I became a mod.] — Double AA, Jan 03 '12 at 16:46
Oops, didn't notice this had actually been closed before editing it... — Yirmeyahu, Oct 23 '12 at 16:36

score 1 · Answer 1 · edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:41

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When I sing the song I do say Hashem's Name on 1st iteration.

That was how it was intended -- To glorify Hashem.

See here: Pronouncing Hashem's name in a song

edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:41

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answered Jan 03 '12 at 14:10

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Do you have a source for this practice? – Hacham Gabriel Jan 03 '12 at 14:19
@HachamGabriel haha I am my own source. my family has always done it. I am my own source. They are songs that were meant to be sung how they were written. – Naftali Jan 03 '12 at 14:21
@HachamGabriel see update. – Naftali Jan 03 '12 at 14:22
I have seen that stream but I just wanted you to add a source into your answer. +1 – Hacham Gabriel Jan 03 '12 at 14:24
@HachamGabriel hehe I just had to search for that question... You could have just told me about it.... – Naftali Jan 03 '12 at 14:25
That is true. My bad – Hacham Gabriel Jan 03 '12 at 14:34

score 0 · Answer 2 · answered Jan 03 '12 at 14:44

Although it is the custom of many people to say Gd's name in songs, if you don't want to you can always add a "K" sound to any of the names to both rhyme and avoid saying Gd's name.

If you have the custom to say "Hashem" in some song where it does not sound right, odds are there used to be a different tune, where it did sound correct.

Shabbat songs that rhyme only with Hashem's real name

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