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What's the reference for the line in the talmud that is about a Jewish apostate being put into a pit?

I know that it gets brought down later in the RAMBAM and Shulchan Aruch.

How are we supposed to understand Rambam's Rotzeach uShmirat Nefesh 4:10?

Dov
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  • avodah zara 26b but also, besides the rambam reference mentioned in the q hilchot rotzeach 4:10. , this rambam reference is related hilchot mamrim 3 https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/84160/how-to-understand-hilchot-mamrim-3 – barlop Dec 08 '21 at 22:43

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You might be thinking of Avoda Zara 26b

אבל המינין והמסורות והמומרים היו מורידין ולא מעלין

But the heretics, and the informers, and the apostates [vehameshummadim] are lowered into a pit, but not raised out of it.

For the Rambam see MT Rotzeach uShmirat Nefesh 4:10, and for Shulchan Aruch see CM 425:5.

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    Hilarious that they uncensored it only in English :) – Double AA Dec 07 '21 at 13:23
  • Yes this is interesting. I checked the paper version of the Steinsaltz gemara and it has the uncensored text on both the Aramaic and English side – mbloch Dec 08 '21 at 14:30
  • looking at the aramaic, המינין(heretic), והמסורות(informer-מוֹסֵר). mumar(similar to meshumad, some kind of apostate).. (And the aramaic has meshumad plural replaced with/censored to, mumar plural). This link here mentions a little about mumar and meshumad https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/114182/what-are-the-rabbinic-hebrew-words-that-could-equate-to-anti-torah – barlop Jul 01 '22 at 16:32