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The wiki for Nenya says of the 3 elvish rings,

Their existence was hidden from Sauron, so they were untouched by his evil.

It also says,

After the destruction of the One Ring and the defeat of Sauron, [Nenya's] power faded along with the other Rings of Power.

The first quote states that they are not connected. The second states that they are connected. If the 3 rings were distinct and untainted by Sauron and his ring, why would their power fade after the destruction of the One Ring?

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  • It's a bit misleading to say that the existence of the Three was "hidden" from Sauron; he knew that they existed, he just didn't know where they were sent after he destroyed Eregion. The LotR Wikia doesn't always have the clearest wording – Jason Baker Feb 09 '15 at 18:59
  • Thanks. They key part of that phrase, I think, is the untouched statement. Is that also inaccurate or incomplete in the wiki's account? – Jeff Feb 09 '15 at 19:01
  • duplicate or not, the answer in that question answers this one – Premier Bromanov Feb 09 '15 at 19:01
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    @Jeff Sort of. The Three are "untouched" in the sense that Sauron wasn't directly involved in their creation (whereas he personally helped create the Seven and the Nine), but they were still created using Sauron's techniques – Jason Baker Feb 09 '15 at 19:02
  • I suppose there is enough overlap between these two questions. I am not quite satisfied with the "Sauron wasn't in the room" explanation. I don't think it is consequential if he physically touched the rings or not. The implication of that sentence, in my mind, is that the rings have not been corrupted or dominated by him - which doesn't seem to be the case. – Jeff Feb 09 '15 at 19:14
  • @Jeff - the distinction is that while they weren't corrupted by him, they were under his domination, because Celebrimbor and the other Elves used knowledge gained from him in their making. This isn't a binary either/or, it's somewhere in between the two extremes. –  Feb 09 '15 at 19:26
  • Because Sauron wasn't involved in the making of the Three, they didn't have the ill effects on their wearers that the others did; but they were made using the same principles; their "power source", if you like, was the same (cf "Sauron made One Ring to rule all the others, and their power was bound up with it"). Thus when it was destroyed, they lost their power. – Matt Gutting Feb 09 '15 at 19:31
  • Thanks all! And sorry for the dupe. It wasn't showing up in the search results before I posted. – Jeff Feb 09 '15 at 19:39
  • @Jeff It's a bit of an oversimplification, but this video has a pretty good high-level overview if you're still confused – Jason Baker Feb 10 '15 at 01:06
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    @JasonBaker Thanks. I really like that video... but actually, it is what got me confused in the first place. I went looking in the wiki to confirm or deny what was said there. I thought that the wiki made a better, more quotable source for this question than the video. – Jeff Feb 10 '15 at 20:29
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    @Jeff Oh well, worth a shot. Now you know that we're a much better resource than the Wikia – Jason Baker Feb 12 '15 at 14:48

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