Can anyone explain Wolverine having no trouble sleeping in a water bed at 300 lbs+ (plus the, let’s say, 130 lbs for the woman next to him) in X-Men: Days of Future Past?
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24Is that the first scene after he goes into the past, the one that is followed by him killing someone with his bony non-adamantium claws? – Deltharis Dec 17 '14 at 09:26
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Mmm, I think you're right! I might have to rewatch! – Jmk Dec 17 '14 at 09:27
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3Even if he had the adamantium, at most, the bed would be awkward to sleep on. The adamantium only adds about 105lbs, giving him a total weight of roughly 300lbs. I've been on waterbeds with far more weight than that all at once. They'll slant a bit, but distributing the weight more - by doing something like laying down - will help a lot. – phantom42 Dec 17 '14 at 12:06
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My research suggests that 300 pounds (plus her weight) would probably still be ok on a waterbed but strongly not recommended. – Valorum Dec 17 '14 at 12:28
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@Deltharis yes it is – Huangism Dec 17 '14 at 13:27
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I've slept on a waterbed for... come to think of it, most of my adult life (I suffer from a sort of early-onset arthritis; sleeping on a large hot-water bottle is soothing). From long personal experience I can tell you that Wolverine's weight is well within a waterbed's tolerances. – Joe L. Dec 17 '14 at 14:05
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@phantom42 I think the real question here is how many people you've had on a waterbed with you. We can imagine the "why" of it. – asteri Dec 17 '14 at 15:49
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2@asteri We piled probably 6 people onto it with no problem. – phantom42 Dec 17 '14 at 15:54
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3Haven't there been instances of his claws extending in his sleep or when awakening from a bad dream? That's bad news for any mattress, but disaster for a waterbed. – Simon Dec 17 '14 at 21:22
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2@Simon now that would be a wet dream... – Adam Eberbach Dec 18 '14 at 05:32
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since Adamantium is not real it can have any mass you like. – Jodrell Dec 18 '14 at 11:48
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@Jodrell - It's real within that piece of fiction which is what the question was asking. – Valorum Dec 18 '14 at 14:24
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1@Simon in the original X-Men movie, he wakes up from a nightmare and immediately pops his claws - right into Rogue. – phantom42 Dec 19 '14 at 16:50
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Because when he travels back to the 1970s, he's not physically travelling in time, he's being mentally projected into his former self and in 1973 he didn't have an adamantium skeleton yet.
You can see from the image below (immediately after he gets out of bed) that his claws are just bone. His weight would therefore be around 175lbs not the 300lbs he weighs in the earlier films.
This was confirmed in an interview with the film's writer, Simon Kinsberg:
Probably the bigger reason is that when we started thinking about the logistical realities of Kitty’s consciousness being sent back in time, to her younger self, as opposed to her physical body being sent back… it was impossible.
Obviously in the book it’s Kitty that’s sent back, but because we cast Ellen Page in X-Men: The Last Stand, you’re talking about an actress who, in the age of Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy, would have been negative 20 years old. So we started thinking again. The first reflex response to that was a character who doesn’t age. Wolverine is the only character who would looks the same in 1973 as he does in the future.”
As an aside, as has been pointed out in the comments above, most waterbed mattresses are rated to carry at least 400 pounds with no difficulty. Even if he did still have an adamantium skelton, his weight (300lbs) plus her weight (122lbs according to her bio) would present little or no chance of the mattress bursting.
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18Bonus joke: Q. Wolverine in 1974 is working as a greengrocer. What does he weigh? A. Oranges! – Valorum Dec 17 '14 at 10:41
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@Richard Oranges are generally priced per orange, not by weight. He must have been weighing plums or something. – Mike Scott Dec 17 '14 at 13:50
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5@MikeScott Not everywhere, I'm buying oranges by weight. Though my central-europe experience might not be indicative of what Wolverine have been going through. – Deltharis Dec 17 '14 at 15:25
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2@Deltharis - It's the same in the UK. In the supermarkets they're priced per item but in the grocers, they're often sold by weight. – Valorum Dec 17 '14 at 15:27
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5@Richard supermarkets here also sell by weight (you can even test-weigh by yourself before buying). But I think we're a bit off-topic here ;) – Deltharis Dec 17 '14 at 15:40
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Simple answer: He doesn't have his Adamantium skeleton yet.
This is seen in the next scene where he draws his claws to fight those mobsters and finds to his own dismay that he has plain bone claws, and not the Adamantium ones.
Furthermore, William Stryker is a youngster here. He isn't the same General Stryker who gave Wolverine his "gift".
So he couldn't have had his Adamantium. And without the Adamantium he weighs around 195lbs.
A typical waterbed can handle about 700kg or 1543.24.
So it's safe to assume a waterbed can handle the weight of an adamantium-less Wolverine alongwith his date.
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'normal' isn't a unit-based measurement of weight (unless we have a scale starting at 'anorexic', passing through 'normal' and 'fat' to end at 'obese'). – Agi Hammerthief Dec 18 '14 at 09:09
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