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When the DeLorean in BTTF travels through time, it instantaneously jumps from one time to another in the same 3 dimensional position. Does the DeLorean contain a spacial history device to determine if there is something occupying the space it would notify the user? If not, does that mean that all uses of the DeLorean when traveling through time have been extremely lucky that they didn't time travel into another object?

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  • The DeLorean doesn't seem to have any such device. The usual assumption is that they travel to the same point in a different time. They do not spatially relocate, just temporally. Considering this, the worst that could happen is they bump into something. But I don't think that this could cause them to time travel "into" another object. – Stark07 Apr 03 '14 at 05:49
  • @AshishKulkarni - if they travel in time, surely they could travel into another thing, as the concept is very much like the Transporter in Star Trek, except over time rather than the other 3 dimensions. – Often Right Apr 03 '14 at 05:50
  • They could, but they won't. For eg, they use roads to travel. Within a span of +or- 30 years, roads aren't overwritten by anything else. And also, time travel isn't that analogous to space travel. As I mentioned, they don't travel in space. Just in time. For eg, in the first movie, Marty travels back to the same location, just 30 years in the past. They aren't plain lucky, they choose areas to time travel where there's almost no chance of materialising into something. For e.g roads. – Stark07 Apr 03 '14 at 05:53
  • @AshishKulkarni - I'm not talking about materialising into roads, but other objects. Take the following example - remember when Doc Brown first tests the DeLorean and he runs out of the way of it before it comes into that time. Surely this shows that if there was a car or something parked exactly where the DeLorean was materialising, then it would materialise where the car is as well. – Often Right Apr 03 '14 at 05:56
  • Aah. That scene. He just avoided getting run over by the DeLorean. He wasn't avoiding the DeLorean materialising around him. If there was another car parked there, the DeLorean would've hit it. – Stark07 Apr 03 '14 at 05:57
  • @AshishKulkarni - I know it can be interpreted that way, but if Doc was standing in exactly the position that the DeLorean materialised... wouldn't that mean it materialised into Doc? – Often Right Apr 03 '14 at 06:00
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    Hmm. I still feel the DeLorean would simply have knocked the doc over. The vehicle is never shown to slowly materialize, it sorta just materializes instantaneously. When Marty materialized in the field in movie 1, there were lots of things around him. He didn't materialize "around" any of them either. – Stark07 Apr 03 '14 at 06:05
  • @AshishKulkarni - but couldn't that just be luck? By traveling through time, it means that one has to take oneself (and the DeLorean in this case) from one point in time to another, thereby materialising from one point to another, instantaneously albeit. Hence, if something occupied the space in 1955 (say a trailer was parked there) that the DeLorean occupied in 1985 and the DeLorean went to '55 at that particular spot, surely it would materialise into the trailer and not simply bump into it! – Often Right Apr 03 '14 at 06:09
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    This is a common problem with time travel, since the Earth itself moves, usually a lot faster and farther than the time machine. Here's TVTropes' take on it. – Avner Shahar-Kashtan Apr 03 '14 at 06:18
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    There's some kind of bright light that appears in front of the DeLorean right before it jumps, as seen at http://fxrant.blogspot.com/2010/08/back-to-future-einstein-jump.html ...so maybe instead of just instantaneously disappearing from one time and reappearing in another, you could imagine it actually creates a sort of hole in spacetime in front of it (like a wormhole), and drives through front-first. Then there wouldn't be any danger of overlapping matter, though if the other end of the hole opened into solid matter the DeLorean could "crash" when its front first tried to pass through. – Hypnosifl Apr 03 '14 at 06:18
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    Hmmm.. Looking at the overall materializations in the BTTF series, it seems as if the DeLorean never materialises if there already exists something on that space. It's not luck. It's physics. No 2 objects can occupy the same space at the same time. The DeLorean is physically incapable of materializing around any existing objects. – Stark07 Apr 03 '14 at 06:24
  • Why history device? You can argue the same for the future too. – user931 Apr 03 '14 at 08:18
  • Every year the Earth returns to more or less the same place it was at on that time the previous year. If you're sufficiently careful to account for rotation of the earth itself, as well as rotation of the sun around the galaxy (which would be relatively smaller) and other large scale gravity effects (smaller again) I believe you could do it. –  Apr 03 '14 at 13:06
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    It is probably worth noting that relativity suggests that the question is relative to what ? There is no preferred universal reference frame. It makes no less sense for a time machine to be stationary relative to the surface of the Earth than to the plane of the galaxy, flr example. – Adamant Nov 04 '16 at 16:43
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    @AvnerShahar-Kashtan: That really isn't a problem for time machines. Yes, the Earth is moving very fast, as is the Sun, as is the whole galaxy. However, there isn't any fixed reference point in the universe that a time machine could be tied to: everything is relative. The Earth is moving very fast but it is moving relative to the Sun, etc. The only sensible reference point for a time machine to use is the body whose gravity well it is in, ie the Earth. – Simba Nov 04 '16 at 17:13
  • I contend that the DeLorean does, in fact, have a Spatial History Device - or some equipment or built in function of that nature. Doc Brown is an individual of genius level intellect - and with the DeLorean, he has access to any number of timelines or dimensions and an unlimited amount of........time.......in which he can engage in Research And Development or Quality Assurance of the DeLorean. Simply travel to another timeline, access his timeline-specific counterparts Notes or acquire Technology to improve Customer Satisfaction. – PhasedOut Nov 04 '16 at 17:31

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Yes, they are really lucky.
I don't believe it does have a Spacial History Device™ based on this bit of relevant dialogue.

Marty: You know Doc, it's gonna be a hell of long walk back to Hill Valley from here.

Doc: It's still the safest plan. After all, we can't risk sending you back to a populated area, or to a spot that's geographically unknown. You don't want to crash into some trees that once existed in the past. This is all completely open country! So you'll have plenty of run-out space when you arrive. (Bolded for emphasis by me).

I don't think the Doc would have to worry about such things if there was already a system in place to prevent such things occurring. Also within the Back to the Future universe time travel is shown to be instantaneous, so it doesn't seem like there could ever be this kind of preventative system in usage(no matter how great it might be).

I think something like this would probably happen.

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    The fact that he enters 1955 about to immediately crash definitely supports this idea. – phantom42 Apr 03 '14 at 12:49
  • I have wondered whether there might have to be some other type of spacial history device on the Delorean, and I guess all time machines that are shown to move through time but not space. This device would be able to calculate the planetary motion through the galaxy through history so the Delorean can create a wormhole and land in the exact same location on Earth...even if Earth itself is in a complete different location. Except, I don't think canonically it can do this. – sumbuddyx Apr 04 '14 at 08:35
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This answer is totally speculative (and probably not what was specifically intended by the movie's creators), but there's some kind of bright light that appears in front of the DeLorean right before it jumps, as seen at http://fxrant.blogspot.com/2010/08/back-to-future-einstein-jump.html ...so maybe instead of just instantaneously disappearing from one time and reappearing in another, you could imagine it actually creates a sort of hole in spacetime in front of it (like a wormhole, see Stick's answer to another question about the DeLorean here), and drives through front-first. Then there wouldn't be any danger of two bits of matter suddenly occupying the same space and overlapping, though if the other end of the hole opened in the middle of solid matter (the inside of a mountain, say) the DeLorean could "crash" when its front first tried to pass through, as if it had hit a door with a brick wall behind it.

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  • That's exactly what's happening. I'll see if I can track down where it's stated so, but the electric sparks and glowing blue lights on the front of the car are referred to as a wormhole, it's essentially a tear in the space time continuum. It's never shown to happen, but if the wormhole was opened up on top of an object, I would imagine that object would be bisected, or destroyed completely but the car would be protected as it travels through the wormhole and said object. – Monty129 Apr 03 '14 at 13:45
  • @Monty129, fans referred to the device on top as a wormhole emitter but apparently Bob Gale originally called it a "tachyon field generator" so that's why I said this idea probably wasn't specifically what the creators had in mind...see the links to the Time Machine Restoration team trading cards at http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Tachyon_field_generator – Hypnosifl Apr 03 '14 at 13:53
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I always assumed some sort of temporal inertia. Much as with H.G. Wells's eponymous Time Machine, the depiction is of them essentially traveling in a straight line through time to their destination. Thus, the car remains roughly attached to the position of Earth/the galaxy/etc and there's the opportunity for it to move out of the way of obstacles before re-materializing.

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From a real-world perspective, space-time is one continuous field, so anything that travels (or jumps) through time would have to travel (or jump) through space across the exact same reference plane. Think of it as walking down a road, except when you walk down a road through space you are really walking through time as well: everybody is a time traveller. (The speed at which you walk relative to a fixed point in the road determines the speed at which you move through time relative to a fixed point in time in which the road exists.) Future time-travel already exists: using conventional means one can travel at near-light speed into the future, for instance.

Even if you fold or warp space, all you're doing is bringing two points in space-time closer together: the intervening "tunnel" in the wormhole cannot form if it's interrupted by a medium in space-time through which the wormhole cannot form. (From a quantum tunneling perspective, if the wormhole would deposit you in a solid object, it wouldn't have formed in the first place. To simplify things greatly, particles can "predict" the future to the extent that they choose one path over another prior to getting to the finish-line, which in this case is an observer in the past.)

It therefore stands to reason that the DeLorean travels like a normal car over an extremely (relativistically) foreshortened path in space and time to get to its destination, as indicated by the burning-rubber tracks that shows that the car has velocity relative to the planetary body through the wormhole (or whatever it is).

This also explains why it stays in relatively the same spot on Earth: it never leaves the planet's gravity well, so its inertia remains in the same direction, relatively speaking.

Note: Doc Brown's quote in the accepted answer does not contradict this: Crashing into an object near your destination remains a concern, just like landing on a runway is a concern if momentum propels you past the end, into an object at the end of the runway. We see this in the first film when he knocks over one of the Twin Pines. This happens because the pines grew up in the path of the vehicle in its past, past the point in which he went into the past and began to accelerate again back... towards the future.

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There's probably a "feel the way through spacetime" effect. Adjustment to contemporary ground-level across the intervening years, if necessary, which perhaps also explains why departing from a point upon a spinning Earth orbitting the Sun, orbitting the Milky Way, etc, does not lead to being dumped somewhere in deep space, or worse...

It maybe would not/could not directly deal with someone who parks a car across the 're-entry' path of the delorean at or around the hour of the day of destination, and trees are awkwardly 'transient' in position, if not time, but gradual changes (due to alluvial deposition, erosion or some seismic dip-slip earth movement/subduction-riding) are caterable-for and you hope for the best in all the exception cases not thus covered.

It must be fairly accurate, if it works for time-travelling trains (prior to engaging hovermode) seemingly transitioning between historic and future rails where possible, without obvious problems with rebedding.