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So in the Star Wars prequels the Kaminoans make a clone army using the DNA of only Jango Fett for the Republic rather than using a few different people as templates for different roles. I can see a lot of problems with this;

  • Lack of role specialisation: The heavy weapons expert, pilot and scout all have the exact same physiology.
  • No safeguards: If something had gone wrong with the Jango batch they would have had no army whatsoever.
  • Environmental considerations: Some environments will be unsuitable for specific physiologies (i.e. high gravity, non-oxygen atmospheres, etc).
  • Vulnerabilities: The C.I.S only need to figure out how to kill the one guy. If Jango was allergic to say mango all of a sudden the C.I.S. just start growing mangos everywhere (okay that example was pants).

Why didn't the Kaminoans use multiple templates for the Clone Army? Were there major problems with such an approach, or did they find ways around the problems I've mentioned? Legends or canon would be fine.

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    We don't know what a real clone army would look like, this could be a plot hole. But Its probably cheaper to use one clone than have to edit and train variations. Though the Kimonans seems like they are rich af, so it seems like the republic could afford it. – Mark Rogers May 06 '18 at 15:57
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    In Legends there was also a book where the Imperials (I think) bio-engineered a deadly toxin specific to Boba Fett's (so therefore also Jango Fett's) DNA and released it into the atmosphere across the entire planet of Mandalore, preventing him from ever returning to his homeworld. In a sense, that's one vulnerability like you mention with your mangoes example. – TylerH May 07 '18 at 03:54
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    LOL that mango thing is hilariously nonsensical and how is it pants WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PANTS ANYWAYS :/ – Darth Vader May 07 '18 at 15:45
  • This question seems to disregard some aspects specific to military procurement which no one can reasonably expect to be the smallest bit different long long time ago in a galaxy far away from what has been repeated time and again throughout the whole known space-time. – Pavel May 07 '18 at 15:49
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    "Pants" does in fact mean "hilariously nonsensical", more or less. See def 3 at link. – Ross Presser May 07 '18 at 17:00
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    In the Republic Commando book Hard Contact, Omega Squad is sent to destroy a CIS project to create a nanovirus targeted specifically at the Grand Army of the Republic. – Davidw May 08 '18 at 06:07
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    The Kaminoans are capable of manipulating a clone to grow from infant to adult in only a few years. One would think they are capable of manipulating the physical characteristics of their clones in other ways as well. – Arthur May 08 '18 at 12:01
  • I'd have thought the worse issue was that they apparently cloned someone who can't hit a human sized target at twenty yards. Even that blind jedi guy can do better. :-) – StephenG - Help Ukraine May 09 '18 at 04:33
  • I upvoted to put this question at 66 lol – Conner Apr 19 '20 at 07:35

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As far as specialization, there's a school of military thought that says role specialization is bad, or at least suboptimal, and that interchangeability is good. If your tank driver, your infantryman, and your pilot are all held to equal physical standards and given equal training, then you can have your pilots shoot people or your tank driver fly a gunship if the need arises. Normally that's not entirely feasible because of different body types, limits on how long you can spend training someone, etc. but those limitations don't apply here. (There's an example of this in action in Shatterpoint, where Mace Windu calls in a clone force of mobile infantry that also ends up operating a major spaceport and acting as pilots. Normally these would be three very different groups of soldiers.)

As far as safeguards, there's no reason to assume they would be in trouble if a particular clone didn't work out. They mention some modifications are made of the template (but not Boba in particular; they mention this specifically). Presumably the Kaminoans would follow normal industrial procedures such as making prototypes to ensure the viability of their final genome, and keeping adequate backups of all the work they were doing in case of any problems. (They also might not have, of course, but that would be a problem entirely separate from using just the one template.) This is also a reason to use just one template: more templates means more time and money spent on preproduction in the form of tinkering with genomes and trying out prototypes, and it means more complications with quality assurance later on.

Regarding environmental constraints, it's not likely that they're going to see a major improvement without finding templates of a totally different species. It comes down to whether the clones are going to be expected to fight in hostile environments often enough, and whether they're hampered enough by environment suits or other protective gear, that it's worth the inevitable cost of adding more templates.

Regarding vulnerabilities, I have to assume some of the modification done to the template was to remove any clear genetic defects that would hamper them. That doesn't mean they'll turn out perfect in every case, of course, but any non-genetic problems would presumably crop up at the same rate whether there was 1 or 10 or 1000 templates.

Finally, it might be worth pointing out that this was supposed to be a secret. Each person who gets made into a template is a person who now knows about (or can deduce) the existence of the Grand Army.

So in short: there are distinct advantages to using one template in terms of cost, production time, interchangeability of clone roles, and secrecy, and the disadvantages you gave could largely be worked around with some genetics and ordinary mass-production procedures.

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    "Each person who gets made into a template is a person who now knows about (or can deduce) the existence of the Grand Army" - oh, come now. Surely we can think of ways to prevent the sources for the clones from making any such deductions. :-) – Bob Jarvis - Слава Україні May 07 '18 at 03:26
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    I'd go even further and state that this is the reason why Jango Fett was chosen: his record as a bounty hunter shows an exceedingly high level of aptitude for all of the things all these types of soldiers would be required to do. All the Kaminoans had to do was give the clones the training to go with the aptitude. Boba's 'unmodified' status means that he is free from the modifications that were made to the clones to make them obey orders without question, which is where the original 'falls short' as a lone-wolf bounty hunter. – Cronax May 07 '18 at 08:51
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    And don't forget the one-size-fits-all gear are cheaper to produce – jean May 07 '18 at 12:08
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    Regarding Vulnerabilities: The Republic Commando book "Hard Contact" specifically dealt with a Genetic researcher trying to isolate something that would wipe out Clone Troopers by targeting their specific DNA make up. – Mark May 07 '18 at 13:12
  • @tonysdg sure, but not every Marine is a rifleman and a tank driver and a pilot and an EWO, etc etc. – Paul May 08 '18 at 12:20
  • Are you a mod is there anyway you can get Valorium unblocked from chatting? – Rob Jackson Sep 23 '20 at 20:30
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There are multiple references to Jango's clones being quite literally perfect. Fast, smart, capable and multi-talented beyond the capabilities of any other sample taken.

"Bred to be perfect soldiers"

Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Clone Cadets / ARC Troopers

Jango himself is stated to possess "perfect" genetics.

'How to climb the career ladder' by Jango Fett:

Sell your perfect genetic code to the Kaminoans so it can be cloned into an almighty army of identical troopers.

Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded

When you've got perfect, why would you want anything else?


Within the Legends game Star Wars: Bounty Hunter we learn why Dooku is so damned impressed with Jango. He held a competition to find the most deadly bounty hunter, placing a bounty on a rogue Jedi named Komari Vosa. Jango was the only one able to defeat Vosa, indicating that an army of Jangos would have a chance (with difficulty, admittedly) of defeating a Jedi army, the ultimate purpose of the clone soldiers.

Dooku: I'm impressed. No ordinary man can defeat one trained in the Jedi arts, especially one trained by me. Komari Vosa was once an excellent pupil, if a bit....unstable.

...

Jango: You want to clone me?

Dooku: Imagine, An army of clones, the training of which you will oversee. They will be modified to grow at twice the rate of ordinary men, and be programmed for absolute loyalty. They will be magnificent, perfect warriors...like you.

Transcript: Star Wars - Bounty Hunter

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    Maybe they shoulda cloned Ewoks instead – Gaius May 06 '18 at 20:39
  • @Gaius - To use as fuel? – Valorum May 06 '18 at 20:39
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    Well if the perfect soldiers are defeated by a horde of stone-age teddybears maybe they weren’t that good to start with, just saying what we’re all thinking... – Gaius May 06 '18 at 20:42
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    @Gaius - Those weren't clone troopers, those were conscripted stormtroopers. – Valorum May 06 '18 at 20:50
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    @Gaius - in any battle between technologically superior, battle-armor wearing, blaster carrying clones and cuddly stone-age teddybears with the power of narrative causality on their side, the teddybears win EVERY FREAKIN' TIME!!! :-) – Bob Jarvis - Слава Україні May 07 '18 at 03:33
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    @BobJarvis - In fairness to the ewoks, their martial skills were underestimated by the Empire and they have a dramatic numerical advantage, not to mention fighting in the environment in which they evolved. – Valorum May 07 '18 at 08:11
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    @Valorum And the stormtroopers were wearing black and white armour in a mottled forest, while the Ewoks had generations of being a hunter tribe to learn how to use the environment to their max advantage. Sure, the stormtroopers could likely shoot any Ewok they saw, but while they were doing that the fifteen they didn't see broke out the nets, garottes and other low-tech traps that blast-resistant armour isn't much of a help against... – Shadur-don't-feed-the-AI May 07 '18 at 09:48
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    When the other side has numbers and is willing to use them, tech superiority isn't much use – Valorum May 07 '18 at 11:16
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    In any real combat situation, the Empire would have pulled back, dropped a tac-nuke or the equivalent, blasted the teddybears to a quark-fog, and sent in a clean-up crew to evaluate the damage. Picture... "Lord Vadar, the clean-up crew has reported back". "Yes...(inhale-exhale)...and..?" "Errrrm...they report that two types of butterfly, a freshwater darter, and a species of toad are now endangered...(gnnnnrkkk!!!)" "It seems you are as well, Commander". "(grrrrrtch!!! )" "I'm sorry, I couldn't make that out..? Well, no matter. Ready my personal fighter...I'm going down there". – Bob Jarvis - Слава Україні May 07 '18 at 11:20
  • @BobJarvis Would it make much sense to use the Death Star II on the moon that held its shield generator? Also, I doubt that a clean-up crew would be needed since we didn't need one for Alderaan. And those "teddybears" are terrifyingly dangerous due to their vicious and man-eating nature, and also because how short they are. You'd think they're a bit short to fight a stormtrooper, but it's the exact opposite. I question your legitimacy as an Imperial commander. – Darth Vader May 07 '18 at 15:51
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    "Use the Death Star"? No - "a tactical nuke or its equivalent". SURELY the Empire has weaponry it can bring to bear on Hoth that falls somewhere between "hordes of blaster-blasting minionry parading their incompetence across the landscape" and "total planetary destruction"? Or are you going to report to Palpatine, "My master - we have eliminated the rebels, and destroyed every habitable planet in the Galaxy". Just imagine the response: "Good, GOOD, my slave! Uh, wait...back up there...did you say 'every habitable planet'..?" "My master, it doesn't sound so good when you put it that way..." – Bob Jarvis - Слава Україні May 07 '18 at 16:40
  • They can't orbitally bombard Endor to save their shield station because it would end up destroying the shield station itself. Consider also the potential value of prisoners - they had everything under control for all but the last five or ten minutes. Now, you could argue their static defenses could use work, and you might be right... – Cadence May 07 '18 at 19:51
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I believe you are missing the point(lessness) of the Clone Wars. Spoilers obviously.

The bare minimum you need for a war is two sides who are trying to beat the other. The Clone Wars, therefore, are not a war. There is only one side.

The risks associated with an army of clones being susceptible to mangos (or biological warfare), or being less versatile, are not risks that would have concerned Palpatine as there is no-one likely to take advantage of such a weakness.

Palpatine's Separatist army is unlikely to think of a clever way to eliminate Palpatine's Clone army using some genetic weakness of the Clones.

Similarly, Palpatine's clone army is unlikely to invent a virus that deactivates all the droids.

The reason for this is that Palpatine didn't want either of his armies to beat the other. He needed there to be war, so that he could be given emergency powers by the Senate.

The plot of the first three movies is not about a war between clones and droids. It was a PR exercise orchestrated by Palpatine.

Palpatine didn't have any wars to fight, so he didn't really care if his troops had a weakness.

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  • I'm confused as to how this in any way answers any part of the question. – Paul May 08 '18 at 12:24
  • @paul - the question is ‘why was only one person used as the template for the clones (considering the weaknesses this introduces)’? The answer is that palpatine didn’t care about weaknesses in the clone army because there was no one to exploit those weaknesses. The clone army didn’t have to be effective at fighting in order to achieve its purpose. – Scott May 08 '18 at 12:27
  • Ok,that wasn't clear to me from what you wrote. – Paul May 08 '18 at 12:29
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    Ok, thanks. I’ve made an edit that hopefully makes it more clear – Scott May 08 '18 at 12:31
  • Perfect answer. You might mention that in addition to emergency powers the other purpose of the clones was to eliminate the Jedi. – Steve V. May 08 '18 at 14:42
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If I was going to clone a secret army why would I chance using many different people and therefore risk exposing it by having to hope they keep quiet, easier to have just one person (living on the planet) also just one payment to make.

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