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The mining ship in Alien is the Nostromo. Nostromo is a novel by Joseph Conrad.

The lifeboat in Alien is the Narcissus. The N_____ of the Narcissus is another Conrad Novel.

The ship in Aliens is the Sulaco. The mining town of Sulaco is the setting of Conrad's novel Nostromo.

The ship in Alien3 is called the Patna, after a vessel in Conrad's Lord Jim.

The ships Verloc (AVP2), Marlow (AVP), Torrens (Aliens: Isolation), and Kurtz (Aliens: Female War) are all Conrad references as well.

Why are there so many references to Conrad's works in the Alien franchise?

Wad Cheber
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    Because Ridley Scott is a big fan; http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Joseph_Conrad – Valorum Jul 07 '16 at 14:52
  • @Valorum - Do we know for sure that the ship names weren't introduced by the writers, as opposed to Scott? – Wad Cheber Jul 07 '16 at 14:59
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    It seems more likely that this is something of an in-joke. Scott's first film was an adaptation of a Joseph Conrad short story called The Duelists. Future writers and directors have presumably been told that this is a tradition, hence why they've included them. – Valorum Jul 07 '16 at 15:03
  • @Valorum - But it started with the first movie, which he wasn't associated with during the writing process. – Wad Cheber Jul 07 '16 at 15:08
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    You may be thinking of Jim Cameron. Ridley Scott directed Alien and certainly had a hand in the writing process – Valorum Jul 07 '16 at 15:35
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    @Valorum - no, I'm thinking of Dan O'Bannon and Ron Shussett writing most of the movie long before Scott got onboard. http://scifi.stackexchange.com/a/128255/44025 – Wad Cheber Jul 07 '16 at 15:42
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    In the earlier "starbeast" drafts of the script, the ship wasn't called the Nostromo, it was called the Snark. – Valorum Jul 07 '16 at 15:45
  • @Valorum - Ah. There's the rub. – Wad Cheber Jul 07 '16 at 15:48
  • There seems to be a great effort to downplay Scott's influence over the making of the film, in the same way that Lucas is being slowly retconned out of the making of Star Wars. – Valorum Jul 07 '16 at 15:53
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    @Valorum From my POV your info seems answer-worthy. Are you just not sure enough of it and/or not able to source/verify it? – Todd Wilcox Jul 07 '16 at 17:19
  • This page claims that Dan O'Bannon's original name for the Nostromo was the Snark. The source is listed as "(Dan O'Bannon's Unseen Alien, Starburst 15, p42)". – Todd Wilcox Jul 07 '16 at 17:24
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    This is very interesting. It seems to be a history of the writing and design of the first ship itself, and includes this: “I called the ship Nostromo from [Joseph] Conrad,” Walter Hill told Film International in 2004, “[For] no particular metaphoric idea, I just thought it sounded good.” So Walter Hill at least thinks that he is the actual Joseph Conrad "fan" in question. – Todd Wilcox Jul 07 '16 at 17:30
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    @ToddWilcox - I'm collating bits and pieces but I'm also re-watching Tron Legacy and reading Tarkin at the same time, so my attention is a little divided at the mo. – Valorum Jul 07 '16 at 17:54
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    Awesome question, Wad!! +1 – Praxis Jul 07 '16 at 17:57
  • "Apocalypse Now" by Stephen Spielberg was an homage to Joseph Conrad's story "Heart of Darkness". Robert Silverberg wrote a novel called "Downward to the Earth" that was an homage to "Heart of Darkness", and very well worth reading. But if you haven't read "Heart of Darkness" yet, read that first. – Howard Miller Jul 07 '16 at 21:10

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By all accounts, the ship names subsequent to the names in the first movie are named that way to continue the "tradition" of the names of the Nostromo and the Narcissus, and the Nostromo was named first during pre-production for Alien. Also, the name "Nostromo" pretty much has to be Conrad reference, while "Narcissus" could just be a Greek mythology reference.

So we can recast the question to, "How did the Nostromo get its name?" So many secondary sources on the Internet claim that Ridley Scott himself named the Nostromo. All sources that mention previous names list "the Snark" as the original name given by Dan O'Bannon, and some sources mention "the Leviathan" as an intermediate name used for at least part of pre-production.

Only one primary source I could find credits anyone with the name of Nostromo. The November 2004 issue of Film International (PDF download) has an interview with Walter Hill, one of the producers for Alien. During the interview he said the following about names:

David had suggested making the captain (Dallas) a woman. I tried that, but I thought the money was on making the ultimate survivor a woman - I named her Ripley (after Believe It Or Not); later when she had to have a first name for I.D. cards, I added Ellen (my mother's middle name). I called the ship Nostromo (from Conrad: no particular metaphoric idea, I just thought it sounded good). Some of the characters are named after athletes: Brett was for George Brett, Parker was Dave Parker of the Pirates, and Lambert was Jack Lambert of The Steelers.

Source: *Film International, Volume 2 (incorrectly labeled "Volume 12" within the issue itself), number 6, November 2004, page 21 (PDF download)

After reading the whole Alien section of the interview, it does occur to me that Hill could be intentionally or unintentionally mis-remembering some of the history of the Alien script. To hear Hill tell it, he and David Giler (another producer on Alien) practically gutted O'Bannon and Shussett's script and rewrote it several times themselves before creating a version that Fox would buy, but somehow the Writer's Guild wouldn't allow either of them to have any writing credit. That latter fact could be Hollywood politics and protection of writers by the Guild, of course. Also, Hill seems to say that their re-writes were what convinced Fox, while other sources say Fox finally jumped on it after seeing the success of Star Wars, and the latter explanation is insanely more plausible.

But aside from Hill characterizing himself as the savior of the things he works on, there is the question of the name Leviathan. The accounts of the history of the name Nostromo seem to indicate that at the time Fox bought the script, the name was still Snark, and that pre-production work was going on regarding the design of the ship (and the alien and all the other elements) while other names, including Leviathan, for the ship were being considered. There is a Chris Foss drawing of an early design for the ship with "Leviathan" written on it:

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Another important fact is that the first film Ridley Scott directed, The Duallists, was based on a story by Conrad (credit to Valorum for that find). Combined with the evidence of names used after Fox bought the movie and prior to the first use of "Nostromo" makes me quite skeptical of Hill's claim. I think it most likely that either Scott brought the name in with him, or someone knowing that Scott had a history or liking of Conrad suggested it.

See also: https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/space-truckin-the-nostromo/

Todd Wilcox
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