I recently asked a friend why it was not permissible to shave with a regular razor and he said because it destroys the hair follicle. However the follicle sits further inside the skin where no razor not standard or electric could reach. So why is an electric razor allowed and not a regular razor?
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Related: "Are old-fashioned razors kosher"? "Heter, esp. from R' Moshe, for shaving with a machine"? – Tamir Evan Dec 07 '17 at 04:53
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1You seem to overlook the fact that not all poskim agree that using an electric razor is mutar. – ezra Dec 07 '17 at 05:05
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I don't think your friend is correct that standard razors are forbidden because they destroy the hair follicle. Proof is that plucking (pulling) hair manually is allowed despite pulling out the follicle (see here and here).
What is forbidden is to shave "the corners of the head and of the beard" (based on Vayikra 19:27: You shall not round off the side-growth on your head, or destroy the side-growth of your beard.) This is understood as cutting hair with a blade (SA YD 181, see here for a translation).
There is indeed a dispute amongst poskim whether shaving is allowed with scissors (see details e.g., here on Halachipedia). So the question to answer for those who allow electric razors, is whether they are closer to a razor (blade) or to a scissor.
Tzomet is an Israeli group of rabbis, researchers and engineers that study new technology in relation to halacha. They explain their position that electric razors are permitted (note that shaver = razor)
There is no discernable difference, from the physical or halachic point of view, between various models of electric shavers. If the "result" is what is important, all types of shavers would be prohibited for use, since none of the shavers leaves hair that can be pulled or that can be felt with the hand.
However, the question of whether shavers can be used is based on the definition of "scissors that are like a razor" and this depends on the mode of operation and not on the result. If the cutting is performed by two or more edges coming into contact, the machine is defined as scissors and not as a razor.
In all the electric shavers, the cutting process is one of contact between a moving blade and the head (a metal screen). Thus, from the point of view of the action performed, these machines are scissors. And this is the basis of our current position.
In our opinion, almost every type of electric shaver which operates as described above can be used.
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Because of the dispute regarding electric shavers, someone published a "kosher shaver" list several years ago. There's also a poster that I have seen in a few Jewish barber shops that explain which areas of the head may be cut. – DanF Dec 07 '17 at 15:56
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@DanF you might be thinking of this for the list of shavers and here for the barber poster – mbloch Dec 07 '17 at 16:34
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Thanks. Yes, that's the barber poster (I didn't realize that Chazaq composed it. They're near my neighborhood and they are a terrific organization.) Didn't know about the list on Tzomet, and that's a good page to help me practice my "modern" Ivrit. – DanF Dec 07 '17 at 17:17
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1@AlBerko Yes it does. I'm sorry you are having trouble reading such a clear and well written post. It is forbidden to use a razor, as this post indicates, because the verse prohibits razors in particular. The question, is which shaving implements are considered razors, or sufficiently similar to razors, to be included. The post indicates, that the determinant is not reaching the follicle, as the OP assumed, but on whether the cutting is performed with one blade, or multiple blades. – mevaqesh Dec 10 '17 at 00:32
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Your post is great and I truly like your answers, I only thought it does not answer the question, maybe I don't understand English. I didn't see the questioner was pleased with your answer, so I thought that was the reason. BTW, how come I can't un-unlike it? – Al Berko Dec 10 '17 at 12:03
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@AlBerko , mevaqesh -- Different kinds of "why". Similarly, in the Babylonian Talmud, the expected answer to "Mai ta'amah?" is a rationale behind a law. Whereas in the "Jerusalem" Talmud, the answer will be a citation, the source of the prohibition in the verse. Mevaqesh's answer is "because we know G-d said so in that He wrote..." whereas Al Berko is looking for a motivation for G-d saying so. – Micha Berger Jan 21 '18 at 19:12
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Not everyone permits lift-and-cut razors because they do -- or at least claim to -- acheive the goal of cutting the hair at or below the skin line. So, it seems to be still under dispute as to whether whether the kind of cutting can be known to be the defining issue or whether one must also worry about the effect of how the hair is cut.
There are instructions floating around the web for how to remove the lifters, or where to buy more normal heads for a Norelco / Phillips shaver for people following the stricter opinions.
– Micha Berger Jan 21 '18 at 19:14