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In Islam there is a big controversy about who ate the Apple first, unlike Christianity where Eve ate the apple first. So who ate it first? Or did they eat it at the same time?

Reasons for controversy

In Quran God said:

فَوَسْوَسَ إِلَيْهِ الشَّيْطَانُ قَالَ يَا آدَمُ هَلْ أَدُلُّكَ عَلَى شَجَرَةِ الْخُلْدِ وَمُلْكٍ لّا يَبْلَى
Then Satan whispered to him; he said, "O Adam, shall I direct you to the tree of eternity and possession that will not deteriorate?" [20:120]

So it is Adam who ate it??

While in another verse in Quran God Said:

فَدَلاَّهُمَا بِغُرُورٍ فَلَمَّا ذَاقَا الشَّجَرَةَ بَدَتْ لَهُمَا سَوْآتُهُمَا وَطَفِقَا يَخْصِفَانِ عَلَيْهِمَا مِن وَرَقِ الْجَنَّةِ وَنَادَاهُمَا رَبُّهُمَا أَلَمْ أَنْهَكُمَا عَن تِلْكُمَا الشَّجَرَةِ وَأَقُل لَّكُمَا إِنَّ الشَّيْطَانَ لَكُمَا عَدُوٌّ مُّبِي
So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?" [7:22]

so now it is Adam and Eve?? and again, In another verse God said:

وَلَقَدْ عَهِدْنَا إِلَى آدَمَ مِن قَبْلُ فَنَسِيَ وَلَمْ نَجِدْ لَهُ عَزْمًا
And We had already taken a promise from Adam before, but he forgot; and We found not in him determination.[20:115]

so is it Adam??

But again!! Mohammed (pbuh) said in Hadith?

لولا حواء لم تخن أنثى زوجها الدهر
If not for Eve, no women ever cheated her husband.
رواه البخاري في صحيحه في كتاب الأنبياء (3152) و(3218) , ورواه مسلم في كتاب الرضاع (1470) ورواه الإمام أحمد في مواضع عدة من المسند.

So now it is Eve!!

These are not all verses from Quran and Hadiths that has opposite meaning (or at least it seems like it has opposite meanings) which is the reason why some Muslims argue about this issue.

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  • -1 there is no controversy; the story is clearly outlined in the Qur'an. See Surah Baqarah, among other things. – ashes999 Jun 20 '12 at 01:19
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    @ashes999: There is no point in giving -1. You can point out the mistake in your answer. –  Jun 20 '12 at 01:51
  • @StartupCrazy I believe this is a poorly researched, not useful question. That's what -1 means. – ashes999 Jun 20 '12 at 01:56
  • I have updated the question. –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:02
  • I stand by my -1. To claim controversy in Islam means that scholars differed over it. That is not the case here. – ashes999 Jun 20 '12 at 02:09
  • it is the case @ashes999. I hope you can read arabic: http://www.islamweb.net/fatwa/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=38539 –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:10
  • while this page claims something else:

    http://www.muslm.net/vb/showthread.php?334670-%D9%87%D9%84-%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D9%87%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%8A-%D8%A3%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%AA-%D8%A2%D8%AF%D9%85-%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A3%D9%83%D9%84-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%B4%D8%AC%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D8%9F!

    –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:11
  • So, isn't that controversy?? any way I do not mind your -1. I just hope that you know there is a real controversy here. Please do some research in google or so... –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:13
  • You are taking verses and ayaat out of context and drawing conclusions to fit your view. Very well, claim controversy if that's what makes you happy. – ashes999 Jun 20 '12 at 02:14
  • My friend, I put the links for two pages in the comments above. thats not my pages. so please read them to know that many muslims have this controversy. just wtire the following in google and see how many muslims asks about this "من الذي أكل التفاحة آدم أم حواء؟" –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:19

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I don't believe that this is a good question; there is no controversy to begin with. The story is clearly outlined in the Qur'an. From Surah Baqarah:

But Satan caused them to slip out of it and removed them from that [condition] in which they had been. And We said, "Go down, [all of you], as enemies to one another, and you will have upon the earth a place of settlement and provision for a time." See: Surah Baqarah

The Arabic clearly outlines "fa azallahumaa ash-shaytaan," that Satan caused them both to slip into the forbidden. There is no question of "Eve did it and therefore all women carry original sin until the end of time."

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  • if you just spend five minutes to research before you answer!! I updated the question with reasons from Quran and hadith for this controversy .check it please and next time please do some research.. –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:01
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    @HaLaBi: Your question lacked citation at first. –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:03
  • @StartupCrazy Yup, the point here he totally DENIED that the controversy exists based on his personal beliefs not because I had no citations. He could've asked me to show some sources foe the controversy before he simple denies the existence of of it While it does exist.. So I added the citations to make him know why do Muslims have this controversy.. –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:05
  • @HaLaBi: How can you make anyone realize that there is a controversy if you have not provided the citations? –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:07
  • well, there is no reason to deny the existence of something because you can't see it :) have you seen God? no.. so does that mean God does not exist?? No.. but you can ask for proofs not just deny it!! –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:09
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    I have updated my comments. Controversy means scholarly difference of opinion, not "normal Muslims don't know their deen and think something where there's nothing." Your question appears to be the latter to me; hence, -1. – ashes999 Jun 20 '12 at 02:10
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    God mention it in two different verses with a different meaning. So it is not a regular muslim who does not know his deen. It is simply there :) –  Jun 20 '12 at 02:14
  • Those other verses do not explicitly mention who ate; that is your conclusion-drawing. Your down vote is duly noted. – ashes999 Jun 20 '12 at 02:25
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First I have to say, I am not a scholar, forgive me if I make a mistake. But Unfortunately, you have not looked at the text in a context. I do not have the experience of reading the Quran in a professional way. However, this might be an insight and beginning to a more academic approach of reading the Quran. In order to understand the book, we need to understand in what kind of historical and geographical context we are in, and to read the comments of the Muslim scholars to understand which event that is taking place. - If you look at the upcoming verse from the Quran that you looked at, then look at the following sentences. The following sentences elaborates that both Adam and Eve were deceived. After 20:120 comes 20:121 it is the next 'verse' or also called 'ayah' tells us that it not a matter of who is to be blamed, because both of them made the same mistake:

"So, both of them [‘Adam and Hawwa’ (Eve)] ate from it, and their parts of shame were exposed to them, and they started stitching on themselves some of the leaves of Paradise. And ’Adam disobeyed his Lord, and erred. (121)"

And a comment from the scholar, can contribute to our understanding, as you can see from the following: enter image description here (Translation of the Holy Quran in English by Mufti Taqi Usmani - www.quranexplorer.com/quran)

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In your question, and all the verses you have provided, there is nothing like An APPLE being eaten, nor those Verses' subject is an apple or who ate it first, so before accusing Quran of having controversies, perhaps you need to ponder upon verses first.

One key thing about the story in the Quran:

Allah warned Adam and his wife, from approaching the tree. the warning was delivered to Adam to not approach the Tree and not allow His wife to approach it!

And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you(both of you) be among the wrongdoers." 2-35

Apparently what you are trying to ask is:

Who stands accountable for the sin of approaching and eating from the tree?

Quran answer:

Adam is main character of the Story. He witnessed prostration by Angels, the incident of the Satan rejecting him, was warned not to approach the tree, and was even warned of the consequences.

So We said, "O Adam, indeed this is an enemy to you and to your wife. Then let him not remove you from Paradise so you would suffer. 20-117

ONE VERY IMPORTANT NOTE HERE

The arabic verses use the MUTHANNA,the DUAL FORM (talking to two) whenever Adam and his wife were involved, except when Allah spoke about suffering! and repentance.

So He was warned, and he was accountable for reminding his wife not to approach.

His wife was warned this is why she is included in the sin

Adam forgot and ate after he was warned and this is why he is a sinner too.

as a consequence, Adam is to suffer! This is why the word suffer is used in singular form directed to Adam! So it suffering was a result of Adam's slip.

After repentance, Adam repented and Allah forgave him.

you can refer to my answer in a relevant question here.

https://islam.stackexchange.com/a/43638/24313

And Allah knows best.

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