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Swami Vivekananda makes a passing remark in one of his lectures (Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, V2 p90) of the following:

By the by, it may interest some of you to know that there are theories on the Vedic philosophy about the origin of life on this earth very similar to those which have been advanced by some modern European scientists. You, of course, all know that there is a theory that life came from other planets. It is a settled doctrine with some Vedic philosophers that life comes in this way from the moon.

My question is, can someone give me a reference to which Vedic philosophers and what commentary Swamiji is referring to?

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I think he may be referring to this chapter of the Chandogya Upanishad, where the king Pravahana Jaibili tells the sage Uddalaka Aruni about the journey of a virtuous soul if it is reincarnating:

But they who living in a village practise (a life of) sacrifices, works of public utility, and alms, they go to the smoke, from smoke to night, from night to the dark half of the moon, from the dark half of the moon to the six months when the sun goes to the south. But they do not reach the year. From the months they go to the world of the fathers, from the world of the fathers to the ether, from the ether to the moon. That is Soma, the king. Here they are loved (eaten) by the Devas, yes, the Devas love (eat) them

Having dwelt there, till their (good) works are consumed, they return again that way as they came, to the ether, from the ether to the air. Then the sacrificer, having become air, becomes smoke, having become smoke, he becomes mist, having become mist, he becomes a cloud, having become a cloud, he rains down. Then he is born as rice and corn, herbs and trees, sesamum. and beans. From thence the escape is beset with most difficulties. For whoever the persons may be that eat the food, and beget offspring, he henceforth becomes like unto them. Those whose conduct has been good, will quickly attain some good birth, the birth of a Brâhmana, or a Kshatriya, or a Vaisya. But those whose conduct has been evil, will quickly attain an evil birth, the birth of a dog, or a hog, or a Kandâla.

The story of Pravahana and Uddalaka Aruni is originally from this chapter of the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, and Pravahana says the same thing there too:

But they who conquer the worlds (future states) by means of sacrifice, charity, and austerity, go to smoke, from smoke to night, from night to the decreasing half of the moon, from the decreasing half of the moon to the six months when the sun goes to the south, from these months to the world of the fathers, from the world of the fathers to the moon. Having reached the moon, they become food, and then the Devas feed on them there, as sacrificers feed on Soma, as it increases and decreases 1. But when this (the result of their good works on earth) ceases, they return again to that ether, from ether to the air, from the air to rain, from rain to the earth. And when they have reached the earth, they become food, they are offered again in the altar-fire, which is man, and thence are born in the fire of woman. Thus they rise up towards the worlds, and go the same round as before.

So insofar as the defining characteristic of life is the fact that it is animated by an atma, and insofar as the souls of virtuous individuals enjoy themselves in the Moon before they come down to the Earth as rain, it can be said that living things "come from the Moon". This isn't the same as saying that the biological material (DNA and cells) that living things are made of come from the moon, but I think it's what Vivekananda was getting at.

The one thing that militates against this interpretation of Vivekananda's words, however, is that it's not true that all souls go through the Moon before coming to Earth; Adhyaya 3, Pada 1, Sutra 13 of the Brahma Sutras says that that the souls of unholy individuals do not go to the moon. Here is what Adi Shankaracharya says about this Sutra:

It is not true that all men go to the moon. For the ascent to the moon is for the purpose of enjoyment only; it is neither without a special purpose nor for the mere purpose of subsequent re-descent. Just as a man climbs on a tree for the purpose of breaking fruit or blossoms, not either without any aim or for the mere purpose of coming down again. Now it has been admitted already that for those who do not offer sacrifices there is not any enjoyment in the moon; hence those only who perform sacrifices rise to the moon, not any other persons. The latter descend to Samyamana, the abode of Yama, suffer there the torments of Yama corresponding to their evil deeds, and then again re-ascend to this world. Such is their ascent and descent; as we maintain on the ground of such a course being declared by scripture.

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  • I am familiar with the sections of the Upanishads you referenced. Many commentators have interpreted it as the lunar sphere, which is different than the physical body of the moon. Vivekananda in other places has referenced it as the lunar sphere and not the moon also. In my question I think he was referring to the start of life on earth and not to the journey of the subtle body between lives. – Swami Vishwananda Apr 04 '15 at 08:55
  • @SwamiVishwananda Well, what I was thinking is that what distinguishes life from inanimate objects is the presence of the soul. So the origin of life on Earth would have been the introduction of souls into non-living matter. Those souls would presumably have been transmigrating ever since they were alive in a previous Kalpa on another planet Earth, and assuming they were virtuous they would go through the Moon before going to the new Earth. – Keshav Srinivasan Apr 04 '15 at 14:29
  • @SwamiVishwananda By the way, since you're familiar with these sections, could you take a look at my question here: http://hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/6929/36 – Keshav Srinivasan Apr 04 '15 at 14:31
  • @SwamiVishwananda By the way, I found a page in Vivekananda's complete works where he makes a very similar statement to the one you quoted: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=YPyMAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA271&ots=Y6_dczViZ-&dq=vivekananda%20life%20moon&pg=PA271#v=onepage&q&f=false "There is an idea among the Hindus that the moon is a place where life exists, and we shall see how life has come from there." And then he follows that up with the Chandogya Upanishad account. So I think that is what he's referring to. – Keshav Srinivasan Apr 04 '15 at 14:40
  • I can't access the page you reference on books.google. Can you tell me what the title of the lecture or volume number and page number? I can then look it up. – Swami Vishwananda Apr 05 '15 at 06:11
  • Google Books listed it as page 271 of Volume 2, but I'm not sure if different editions have different page numbering. In any case, it's from Vivekananda's lecture "Practical Vedanta Part 2", which you can read here: http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_2/practical_vedanta_and_other_lectures/practical_vedanta_part_ii.htm – Keshav Srinivasan Apr 05 '15 at 12:57
  • Found it. It's not page 271. I think Google used a very, very old edition to try and circumspect copyright laws. The second volume hasn't been revised since 1963. It's been page 315 since before then. If you look on the previous page, he also says "We now come to a peculiar doctrine. I do not understand much of it myself." Also, in the lecture 'The Real and Apparent Man" also in Vol 2, he refers to it as the lunar sphere, not as the moon. I have not looked into the Sanskrit yet, I think it is usually referred to as candraloka. – Swami Vishwananda Apr 05 '15 at 15:07
  • My problem with an interpretation as it being the physical moon is that the body that is going and coming - from candraloka, the lunar sphere - is the subtle body, it is not the physical body. My interpretations of the lokas are as spheres or planes of existence, not on the plane of matter as subtle bodies are not on the plane of matter. Vivekananda was right in that 'I do not understood much of it myself'. – Swami Vishwananda Apr 05 '15 at 15:20
  • @SwamiVishwananda Here is the original Sanskrit for Prapathaka 5 Khanda 10 Verse 4 of the Chandogya Upanishad: "māsebhyaḥ pitṛlokaṃ pitṛlokādākāśamākāśāccandramasameṣa somo rājā taddevānāmannaṃ taṃ devā bhakṣayanti" So the word it uses is Chandramas, which is the standard word for the Moon. In any case, regardless of how the Chandogya and Brihadaranyaka Upanishad should properly be interpreted, I think it's pretty clear that the quote in your question is referring to the same thing as the quote I found in "Practical Vedanta". I think in both cases Vivekananda is uncertain about this issue. – Keshav Srinivasan Apr 05 '15 at 15:37
  • @SwamiVishwananda By the way, subtle bodies are not in the same plane as physical matter, but they can still be associated with a location in the physical Universe. Like when a person is alive, their subtle body is "located" in the small space within their heart. So it might be that when a person dies the subtle body shifts the location it's associated with to the moon. In any case, can you take a look at my question here? http://hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/6929/36 It concerns these sections of the Chandogya and Brihadaranyaka Upanishad. – Keshav Srinivasan Apr 05 '15 at 15:42
  • It is said that the aura is the casual body and it is above the skin layer and around our body, then why is casual body not taken outside ,like 1000 times bigger than aura body. – Yogi Dec 19 '15 at 18:36