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In the life of Adi Shankara, there is a famous incident involving a Chandala and his Four dogs:

When Sankara was going with his disciples to the Ganges for midday ablutions, he noticed an outcaste approaching them with a pack of four dogs. Shankara and his disciples asked him to keep out of their path...

and the rest is history.

Does this act of Sankara indicate that he practiced untouchability?

SOURCE: Madhavīya Shankaravijayam Part 2, can be checked at the Sringeri Mutt website

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    Did you read completely? Shankara also prays to feet of Chandala. That chandala is none other than Lord Shiva in disguise. – The Destroyer Feb 13 '17 at 09:16
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    @ The Destroyer That is true. But until the Chandala (i.e. Lord Shiva) could reveal his identity through his answer, Sankara didn't realized the Divinity. If the Chanadal would have remained silent and not revealed his identity, then how could the act of Adi Sankara could be justified. – Ganesh Feb 13 '17 at 09:28
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    If a Brahmin says "let the Chandala (who works probably in a burning ghat ) touch me(when he is on his way to worship) then he is either a Jivanmukta or he is not a follower of the Dharmic injunctions ..As simple as that.. – Rickross Feb 13 '17 at 17:13
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    If i am on my way to my puja room at morning fresh and bathed and i happen to touch a woman on menses,a person who's sutak Asaucha is on or a person who works in burning ghats then i will be terribly upset thinking that my morning puja is all spoiled..This only means that i am concerned about fullfilling my Dharmic duties and does not mean that i am stone-hearted or i'm one who practices discrimination or something of that sort..Adi Shankara was simply following scriptures if he was trying to avoid an outcaste. – Rickross Feb 13 '17 at 17:13
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    Why does this question have the advaita tag? Seems unrelated to advaita. I don't think this is a philosophy question. – Say No To Censorship Feb 13 '17 at 21:04
  • For an act of worship, I don't agree that external purity is more important than the internal purity. Dharmic injunctions don't mention that by touching a woman on menses or a Chandala his worship to the Lord becomes impure. – Ganesh Feb 14 '17 at 16:06
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    @Ganesh Both are important..First we need external then we need internal purity..Yes they mention in many places..its just that u haven't read them.. – Rickross Feb 14 '17 at 16:53
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    @Ganesh See this mantra for ex..It talks about bahyAvantara Suchi.ie both external and internal purity which one obtains upon reciting it..So both are important..For internal purity we have many rituals like achamana,pranayama etc..for bahya suchi we similarly have bathing.marjana.. – Rickross Feb 15 '17 at 06:07
  • I agree with @Rickross For worship, body, mind and speech these three should be pure. Even if one of them is impure, the fruit of worship shall not be attained. Many people these days are chanting powerful mantras whenever they want ignoring rules saying "only heart should be pure. Forget the external purity. God doesn't get impure". Applying the same rule, can one can go into temple without taking bath or with their shoes on? No. external purity is as important as internal purity. – Sarvabhouma Feb 15 '17 at 06:36
  • @Ganesh I think main reason Adishankara's disciples asked the Chadala to move away because Chandalas are impure both externally and internally (not sure now but it was the case in olden times). So, Adishankara asked him to move away. But when he came to know Chandala was Shiva and as Lord is beyond everything, he prayed chandala (Lord Shiva). Though everything is Brahman at Paramarthika level, we need to follow Dharma Sastras and other rules in Vyavaharika level. – The Destroyer Feb 15 '17 at 11:38
  • @ i UNDERSTANDIt's necessary for bith internal and external purity is importnat. – Ganesh Feb 17 '17 at 02:44
  • @Ganesh What exactly is your question? You want to know "why Shankara practiced untouchability?" See comments under Rickross' answer. – Say No To Censorship Mar 02 '17 at 21:02

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If Adi Shankara was trying to avoid the Chandala then he was simply following the injunctions of Scriptures. So, if you want to blame someone (or something) here, then blame the Scriptures. Because Adi Shankara was simply adhering to them.

See the following verses from Manu Smriti:

3.239. A Chandala, a village pig, a cock, a dog, a menstruating woman, and a eunuch must not look at the Brahmanas while they eat.

5.85. When he[a brahmin] has touched a Chandala, a menstruating woman, an outcast, a woman in child bed, a corpse, or one who has touched a (corpse), he becomes pure by bathing.

10.51. But the dwellings of Chandalas and Svapakas shall be outside the village, they must be made Apapatras, and their wealth (shall be) dogs and donkeys.

10.53. A man who fulfils a religious duty, shall not seek intercourse with them; their transactions (shall be) among themselves, and their marriages with their equals.

11.175. A Brahmana who unintentionally approaches a woman of the Chandala or of (any other) very low caste, who eats (the food of such persons) and accepts (presents from them) becomes an outcast;

And from Parashara Smriti:

  1. For sleeping together with many of the Chandala caste, let a Brahman fast for full three nights. If he treads a path that a Chandala has trodden, his sin is removed by a remembrance of the Gayatri verse.

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  1. On seeing a Chandala, let him look at the sun without a moment's delay. For touching a Chandala, let him bathe with his clothing on.

So, Adi Shankara was simply following these instructions.

In any case, these verses should not taken as applicable only to a particular caste of people that is solely determined by birth. A Chandala is also the one who may not be that by birth but who is acting like one.

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He who sets his face against righteousness, is but a Chandala by his acts. He gains nothing by being a mendicant, or by worshiping the household fire.

(Parashara Smriti)

Also, what Lord Shiva said simply means "What is the difference between a Chandala and a Brahmin when Atma-Gyana (Brahma Gyana, Knowledge of the Self) is obtained?

When Atma Gayna is obtained then one is free from all vedhas( dualities, differences) but till that (state of avedha) is achieved the vedhas are very much there.

When one achieves Atma Gyana there is no karma for him (good or bad) and there are no rules for him. There is no need for him then to follow the Scriptural injunctions either.

But for all other persons those rules laid down in Shastras should always be followed.

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    Btw as a sidenote you may add that Vedas declare that one can touch, dwell or eat with Chandala also if he utters the Word 'Shiva'. http://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/17299/what-shruti-source-is-srikanthacharya-quoting-in-this-bhasya-regarding-efficacy – Tezz Feb 25 '17 at 04:13
  • @Tezz..In that case the next question will be did Adi Shankara not know that?If yes why is he still trying to avoid the Chandala? – Rickross Feb 25 '17 at 05:35
  • I think Adi Shankara was avoiding because that Chandala (Shiva) wasn't pronouncing 'Shiva'... – Tezz Feb 25 '17 at 05:37
  • @Tezz..Ok but if someone chants "Shiva Shiva" then will he not get saved from getting impure even if he had touched something/someone impure? – Rickross Feb 25 '17 at 05:45
  • yes, I think .... maybe he became deluded by Shivas Maya at that time... – Tezz Feb 25 '17 at 05:48
  • The main question seems to be: Does this act of Sankara indicate that he practiced untouchability?... so can you write yes or no at the beginning of your answer? Most of your answer seems to be defending Shankara's action or his POV. But I don't think OP asked to justify Shankara's action... – Say No To Censorship Mar 01 '17 at 19:44
  • @sv Why is that even needed?That Adi Shankra practiced untouchability is proved from the incident given in the Q itself..So the Q actually does not make too much of a sense to me..as far as i have understood OP's main Q is_"If he did practice untouchability why he did so?" Becoz from one of OP's comments (under the Q) it seems that he is unware of the fact that Shastras prescribe such discriminative behaviour..So u can see my answer from that perspective – Rickross Mar 02 '17 at 06:37
  • @sv.......Regarding supporting Adi Shankara-Now since i don't subscribe to any of those man-made philosophies i don't have any need to support anyone(any particular acharya)..But having said that Adi Shankra is, without doubt, by far the most renowned and influential Hindu philosopher/acharya.. – Rickross Mar 02 '17 at 06:37
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Adi Shankara is no doubt the most important Acharya in medieval India. He, however, had a dark side. A perusal of his commentary on Pseudo-Sudra in Brahma Sutra lays bare his attitude on Sudras. I am posting an excerpt of his bhasya below. We do not know enough of his daily activity to know whether he personally practiced untouchability. However, his writings suggest that he may well have done so (at least till he wrote the Maneesa Panchakam). He supports every barabaric suggestion of Hindu scriptures without any pangs of conscience.

And because the Smriti prohibits for the Sudras the hearing, study, and acquisition of the meaning (of the Vedas).

This is another reason why the Sudra has no right: By the Smriti he is debarred from hearing, studying, and acquiring the meaning of the Vedas. The Smriti mentions that a Sudra has no right to hear the Vedas, no right to study the Vedas, and no right to acquire the meaning of the Vedas (and perform the rites). As for prohibition of hearing, we have the text, "Then should he happen to hear the Vedas, the expiation consists in his ears being filled with lead and lac", and "He who is a Sudra is a walking crematorium. Hence one should not read in the neighbourhood of a Sudra". From this follows the prohibition about study. How can one study the Vedas when they are not to be recited within his hearing? Then there is the chopping off his tongue if he should utter the Vedas and the cutting of his body to pieces if he should commit it to memory. From this it follows by implication that the acquisition of meaning and acting on it are also prohibited, as is stated in, "Vedic knowledge is not to be imparted to a Sudra", and "Study, sacrifice, and distribution of gifts are for the twice born". But from those to whom knowledge dawns as a result of (good) tendencies acquired in the past lives, as for instance to Vidura, Dharmavyadha, and others, the reaping of the result of knowledge cannot be withheld, for the result of knowledge is inevitable. This position is confirmed by the Smriti text, "One should read out to the four castes (keeping the Brahmana in front)", which declares the competence for all the four castes for the acquisition of the anecdotes and mythologies. But the conclusion stands that a Sudra has no right to knowledge through the Vedas.

Brahma Sutra Bhasya of Sri Sankaracharya I.iii.38

Swami Vivekananda also felt that Shankara's writing on Sudras is obnoxious.

Buddha and Shankara

What Buddha did was to break wide open the gates of that very religion which was confined in the Upanishads to a particular caste. . . His greatness lies in his unrivalled sympathy. The high orders of samadhi etc., that lent gravity to his religion, are almost all there in the Vedas; what are absent there are his intellect and heart, which have never since been paralleled throughout the history of the world. . . The religion of Buddha has reared itself on the Upanisads, and upon that also the philosophy of Shankara. Only Shankara had not the slightest bit of Buddha's wonderful heart, dry intellect merely! For fear of the Tantras, for fear of the mob, in his attempt to cure a boil, he amputated the very arm itself.

(The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, VI. 225-27)

Shankara's intellect was sharp like a razor. He was a good arguer and a scholar, no doubt of that, but he had no great liberality; his heart too seems to have been like that. Besides, he used to take great pride in his Brahmanism -- much like a southern Brahmin of the priest class, you may say. How he has defended in his commentary on the Vedanta Sutras that the non-Brahmin castes will not attain to a supreme knowledge of Brahman! . . . But look at Buddha's heart! -- Ever ready to give his own life to save the life of even a kid -- what to speak of bahujanahitayabahujanasukhaya -- For the welfare of the many, for the happiness of the many"! See what a large-heartedness – what a compassion.

(The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, VII. 117-18)

Can one possibly explain Sankara's writings on Sudras?

We must remember that tradition says that Shankara wrote his great commentary on Brahma Sutra when he was between 12 and 16 years. It is thus possible to believe that the pitiless writing is a reflection of immaturity. Another possibility is that the young Shankara did not muster enough courage to challenge the orthodoxy.

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  • I don't think reason is immaturity. If he was immature, he couldn't even expound Advaita Siddhanta. I think he could mean Sudra as person with predominately Tamas. We can't read Veda and get its essence by sitting in Tamas neighbourhood, if we strictly follow Guna based Varnasrama Dharma. – The Destroyer Mar 02 '17 at 14:20
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    No, we can rule out the possibility that Shankara was talking about Guna based Varnashrama dharma. For example Sankaracharya writes in his commentary on Brahma Sutra I.iii.35, "For this further reason Janasruti is not a Sudra by birth ...'. – Pradip Gangopadhyay Mar 02 '17 at 14:37
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    @TheDestroyer Sankara is talking about Varna by birth and not gunas in his books. – Rakesh Joshi Mar 02 '17 at 15:21
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    @Pradip Gangopadhyay also not only Shankara all the commentators in Brahma Sutras in that Sutra write the same... – Tezz Mar 02 '17 at 16:05
  • @Tezz then BS should be also questioned. It could be an interpolation if it does not hold views of geeta or vedas. – Rakesh Joshi Mar 02 '17 at 20:46
  • I think that the criticism is misconceived. From the very translation you provide, it does not seem that Shankara supports barbaric punishment mentioned in texts. He only uses them to illustrate that "How can one study the Vedas when they are not to be recited within his hearing?". Shankara was an expert logician. Here, he is just using logical statements to show how Smriti bars Shudra from gaining knowledge of Vedas. Some people here are expecting a compassionate answer, not a logical one. For Shankara's view on caste system, isn't "Maneesha Panchakam", a better source? – IsThatTrue Apr 10 '17 at 14:18
  • @IsThatTrue I think he was secretly planning for world peace and getting rid of nukes and removing poverty and making the world heaven (atheists are not allowed here BTW) with his logic. He deserves a nobel prize – Notty Feb 10 '18 at 04:59
  • @Notty I think he deserves a Nobel Prize anyway for not being a triggered Social Justice Warrior:) – IsThatTrue Mar 02 '18 at 13:03
  • @IsThatTrue So, some one who is triggered by a supporter of caste system is a Social Justice Warrior. Good Job Desi Logic. – Notty Mar 06 '18 at 05:45
  • @IsThatTrue Even your fellow bhakts don't agree with your theory. As they say Faith is the denial of evidence so belief can be preserved.

    If you really wan't to show the truth start by giving some quotes directly from his work that are against caste system.

    If you find quotes like that, I'd be happy that you searched for real evidence and not mumble opinions on a site which is laid on the very foundation of evidence and not opinions, even if they prove me wrong.

    I like people who quote scriptures on Hi.SE and don't blab and give opinions

    – Notty Mar 06 '18 at 05:53
  • @Notty "I like people who quote scriptures on Hi.SE and don't blab and give opinions" Then you must really hate yourself. And are full of yourself, if you think telling me what you like is any argument for me to do what you like. Imagine people not giving a damn about you;) – IsThatTrue Mar 15 '18 at 06:03