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For example: Yog becomes Yog'a' or Krishn -> Krishna; same way Ram -> Rama

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    Ram becomes Rama, Krishn becomes Krishna in Sanskrit. But what do you mean by Indian name? – The Destroyer Oct 25 '16 at 15:16
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    Yog is incomplete,similarly Yogaa(aa as in umbrella) is also partially correct.Yoga is correct .Some says Shivaa for Shiva but then how will one differentiate between Shiva & Shivaa(Devi).? – Rickross Oct 25 '16 at 17:26
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    @Pandya The intent of that meta post is what transliterations are allowed on this site. OP here is asking in general why is there a difference in first place when people transliterate on blogs, e-mails, etc. – Say No To Censorship Oct 26 '16 at 17:34
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    We pronounce Raama very incorrectly if we pronounce as- 'Ram'. Note that there is A sound(as in 'a'lone) also with M (as in ja'm'). The ma is not 'Maaa' , it is Ma (as in 'mu'mble)

    Note that Rama is not Raaamaaa. It is Raama, where Raa is pronounced as in ext'ra' and Ma is pronounced as in 'mu'mble.

    So it is better to write Rama as Rama itself. In fact we should write as Raama, but fine, Rama is also okay(though, yet, not correct)

    –  Jun 05 '17 at 06:21
  • English's 26 letters of its alphabet, are never able to give correct pronunciation to all sound or word. Since each letter has many kinds of sounds, and many sounds do not have letter for them. Rama, for instance, may be pronounced by someone as- रमा, रामा, रम, राम, रम्, राम्, et cetera, as per their assumptions. But only राम is correct pronunciation. So if you able to read Devanagari, Bengali, Telugu, Tamil, et cetera "Scripts", then go with this "Script", in place of "Roman" "Script". –  Jun 05 '17 at 06:37
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    You have it backwards. Yoga became yog. Rama became Ram. And so forth. –  Nov 12 '17 at 05:03
  • it depends on what region one is from for e.g. in Tamilnadu most names end with in or im i.e. (Na or Ma) in Karnataka most name ends with aaa karaa and in andhra llu karaa is preferreed.. one insite from sadhguru is A, U, M represent hindu philosophy this three letters indicate hindu philosophy of trinity. A(Brahma or Vayu) karnataka where hanuman and madvacharya are born and madhva religion is followed where Vayu is the foremost of all the gods. They all belong to latavya devatha. U kara is for Vishnu that is tirupati where lord venkateshwara is worshipped. – Prasanna R Mar 21 '21 at 14:24
  • Ma kara is where shiva is worhsipped more. – Prasanna R Mar 21 '21 at 14:24
  • Because that is the correct Sanskrit spelling (within the current romanisation scheme) & Hindi is NOT the universal language of Hindus. Case closed. – অনু Jan 10 '24 at 08:17

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TL;DR: It's due to schwa deletion rule of Hindi.


First off, it is incorrect and incomplete to write the Sanskrit or Devanāgarī word राम (Rāma) as "Rama" as commonly written by English writers on this forum and elsewhere. The table below lists the accepted Romanised transliterations of राम. Same goes for कृष्ण - "Krishna" is not recommended, while Kṛṣṇa or kRSNa is more acceptable.

IAST makes no special use of capital letters so people often capitalize proper nouns, so both rāma and Rāma are valid.

Now for ease of use, people just write 'Rama' or 'Krishna' because it's difficult to type accented letters such as ś, ṛ and even long vowels such as ā (आ) using a QWERTY keyboard. Also, when you just write 'Rama' you are actually transcribing i.e., freely converting sound from one language to another - technically it's not correct as information is lost in the process. A native English speaker might interpret 'Rama' as रम instead of राम.


Now to your actual question: Why not write राम as Rām instead of Rāma & कृष्ण as Kṛṣṇ instead of Kṛṣṇa?

That's because, if transliterated as above it would lead to a different word altogether in Sanskrit. Rām would represent राम् and Kṛṣṇ or kRSN would mean कृष्ण्

Now if you are Hindi speaker, you probably pronounce राम as राम् and vice versa.

But in Sanskrit both are different, म् + अ (schwa) = म

So when you are transliterating (especially Sanskrit names and scripture) to Roman alphabet you need to be a little careful, use one of IAST, ITRANS or Harvard-Kyoto.


+============+=============+================+================+===============+
| Devanāgarī |    IAST     |   ITRANS 5.1   |   ITRANS 5.3   | Harvard-Kyoto |
+============+=============+================+================+===============+
| राम        | Rāma        | raama          | raama          | rAma          |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
| कृष्ण       | Kṛṣṇa       | kR^iShNa       | kR^iShNa or    | kRSNa         |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
|            |             |                | kRRiShNa       |               |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
| योग        | Yoga        | yoga           | yoga           | yoga          |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
| शिव        | Śiva        | shiva          | shiva          | ziva          |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
| महाभारत    | Mahābhārata | mahAbhArata or | mahAbhArata or | mahAbhArata   |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
|            |             | mahaabhaarata  | mahaabhaarata  |               |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
| ज्ञान        | jñāna       | GYaana/GYAna   | GYaana/GYAna   | jJAna         |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
|            |             | j~naana/j~nAna | j~naana/j~nAna |               |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+
|            |             | dnyaana/dnyAna | dnyaana/dnyAna |               |
+------------+-------------+----------------+----------------+---------------+

Reference: Learning Sanskrit - Transliterating

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  • Whats the correct pronunciation of "karma" is it "karma" or "kaarma" – Xlam Aug 07 '17 at 17:44
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    @Xlam pronounced as karma. – Aks Aug 07 '17 at 21:26
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    @Xlam From here, कर्म = karma is a noun meaning 'action' whereas कार्म = kārma or kaarma or kArma is an adjective meaning 'active', 'laborious' etc. – Say No To Censorship Aug 08 '17 at 15:07
  • @sv. Truly great explanation. But still I doubt about pronunciation? Why do people say it as Rama while speaking and why not as Ram? – Ashish Srivastava Aug 17 '17 at 08:57
  • @AshishSrivastava how many of those 'people' know about right phonetics and pronunciation rules? People call Raama as Raaamaaaa as they've been listening it that way. And those 'people' are not the founder of pronunciation of the name of Raama. The correct pronunciation is "Raama'', Raa as in ext'ra', and ma as in 'mu'mble. It is the correct pronunciation of word Raama. –  Nov 03 '17 at 19:04
  • How do I type a letter with a horizontal bar above it? e.g. ā (here I have copied and pasted :) . After searching, found some weird key combinations for Windows. I am on Linux. – Vineet Nov 22 '18 at 04:49
  • I too copy-paste. There's no easy way. I keep a list of frequently used Sanskrit words in IAST. Wikipedia articles mostly use IAST notation so search & copy also works. To avoid all this hassle some prefer Harvard-Kyoto. @Vineet – Say No To Censorship Nov 22 '18 at 16:50
  • "Now if you are Hindi speaker, you probably pronounce राम as राम् and vice versa." No in Hindi also people pronounce राम not राम् . The Hindi Grammar says same म् + अ equation as you told for Sanskrit. @sv. – TheLittleNaruto Dec 17 '18 at 08:39
  • @TheLittleNaruto Think you are confusing the spelling (राम - Rama) with pronunciation (राम् - Ram) in Hindi? Though we say 'Ram Mandir' in Hindi but write it as राम मंदिर (not राम् मंदिर्). – Say No To Censorship Dec 18 '18 at 17:42
  • I understood why you are getting confused because of the transliteration used for Hindi. Yeah that's misleading I agree. But pronunciation राम only not राम् . @sv. – TheLittleNaruto Dec 18 '18 at 18:02
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References for this annswer:

  • Chapter 1 of Samskrita Bharati Pravesha
  • Chapter 1 of A Practical Grammar of the Sanskrit Language
  • Consonants section under Devanagari transliteration wiki article

    The Devanāgarī standalone consonant letters are followed by an implicit shwa (/Ə/). In all of the transliteration systems, that /Ə/ must be represented explicitly using an 'a' or any equivalent of shwa.


In DevaNagari languages (such as Sanskrit and Hindi), each full-form constant is a combination of half-form constant and a vowel.

i.e.

full-form constant = half-form constant + vowel

For example,

म (ma) = म् (m) + अ (a)

Hence, all words have to be ended by a vowel but not necessarily by 'a'. For example,

Vishnu (विष्णु)

Manu (मनु)

Yayati (ययाति)

Draupadi (द्रौपदी)

However, when there is no need of a vowel in pronunciation (most of the case if word referers to a Masculine noun), then we use 'a'. For example:

Raama > Rama (राम)

Bhishma (भीष्म)

Drona (द्रोण)

Raavana > Ravana (रावण)

Ganesha (गणेश)

Shiva (शिव) 1

Krishna (कृष्ण) 2

But most of the time, for simplicity we use 'a' instead of 'aa' (for example, we write Aarati (आरती) as Arati) and that should be pronounced (most of the case if word referers to a Feminine noun). For example,

Sitaa -> Sita(सीता)

Shivaa -> Shiva (शिवा) 3

Krishnaa -> Krishna (कृष्णा) 4


Footnotes:

1 Shiva (शिव) : Masculine noun for one who is auspicious. Example: name of Lord Shiva

3 Shivaa -> Shiva (शिवा) : Feminine noun for one who is auspicious or Feminine noun for one who is consort of Shiva. Example: name of Goddess Parvati

2 Krishna (कृष्ण) : Masculine noun for one whose complexion is dark. Example: name of Lord Krishna, Arjuna 

4 Krishnaa -> Krishna (कृष्णा) : Feminine noun for one whose complexion is dark. Example: name of Draupadi 

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In the Devanagri script (used for Sanskrit) the first alphabet / vowel is 'अ' or 'a'. If the vowel 'a' is not added to the word, the word is incomplete - Rama without 'a' i.e Ram would be in Devanagri script become 'राम्' and not 'राम'. Similarly for Shiva, Krishna, etc.

The second alphabet / vowel is 'आ' or 'aa'. Whenever 'aa' is added to a word it denotes the feminine. Thus 'कृष्णा' is the name of Draupadi and not Sri Hari 'कृष्ण'.

Hope this clarifies your query.

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