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I am a graduate student in mathematics. I've been having a difficult relationship with my advisor, and I need some help on the matter.

Some background

When I just started my graduate studies, my advisor warned me that he tends to be strict, and that sometimes he can have anger outbursts. I thought (and still think) that a strict advisor would be good for me, and didn't think the mentioned anger issue would be as bad as it turned out to be.

In the beginning, our relationship was good and (professionally) friendly, and I looked forward to every meeting with him. Our discussions gave me motivation in my studies and research.

About half a year later, I was going through depression unrelated to academic issues (and started being treated by medications), and was completely unproductive and not concentrated on my work for a few of months, which my advisor was unhappy about. He said that he didn't care about my personal problems, didn't want to hear excuses, and that he expected me to work regardless. From that point on, our relationship completely changed. He stopped being nice and supportive, and started accusing me of not being serious and not working hard enough. This seems to have been the main trigger for his behaviour which I am to describe next.

The problem

If I don't get results, and try explaining that I've been working hard and just couldn't come up with a solution, my advisor starts yelling (yes, really yelling) that my progress is too slow, that he's sure he could have solved it in a month/week/hour himself if he tried, etc.

He also tends to interpret everything I say as a personal accusation, even though I always try to formulate my questions carefully and politely. For example, if I ask whether I should stick with a certain approach even after being unsuccessful for a while, he responds by yelling that he's an experienced researcher and that if he suggested it there must be a reason, and how dare I, a student, question anything he says.
A similar situation happened when I pointed out a mistake made by another researcher (and which was checked, per my request, by a third party after the incident). My advisor didn't check my claim thoroughly, and yelled that how dare I "accuse" a well-regarded researcher of making a mistake, and that it makes him angry that I "don't check my facts" before making such a claim, and compared me to mathematical cranks.
[To clarify: I pointed out the mistake in an email to my advisor, not in any arrogant way, and without involving anyone else at that point.]

It is difficult for me to work, because every time I'm stuck on something, I panic thinking about our next meeting and how he would yell at me again for lack of results. It also makes me look for "shortcuts" instead of really understanding what I'm studying for my research (even when those are basic things that he would agree I should understand) to save time.
When I explained to my advisor that this slows down my progress, he said that he's not a psychologist, and it's not his job to deal with my psychological problems.

Another problem is that almost all of our conversations revolve around my lack of progress and him yelling repeatedly the same things, while I'm trying to pull the conversation back to the math, as I need his help, and as there is no-one else working in this area at my university (and perhaps in the country). He had another graduate student who just graduated and switched to a different field, telling me that he would not continue for a PhD with this advisor because "he can't survive this psychological pressure for several more years".

I don't see a feasible option of switching advisors for the reason stated above, and also because based on his past PhD students and on what he told me, he could significantly help me in finding positions after I graduate. Also, I regard him as a good advisor in other aspects (much better than other advisors I know at our department), and I do believe that after all he cares and would help me if I made progress.
As much as possible, I would like to have a good relationship with him, and I definitely don't want to harm him in any way (such as reporting it - which would have been counter-productive anyway).

Our relationship quite reminds me of the movie "Whiplash" (without the physical abuse)...

Since the situation seems to have been worsening recently, I would very much appreciate some input on how to deal with this situation.

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    Hi, Pandora. Questions of the "here's my situation, what do I do now?" variety are general not good fits for SE sites. Do you think you could boil things down to something more specific and actionable? – aeismail Oct 09 '15 at 23:26
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    Naive and possibly stupid question: have you considered asking your advisor not to yell at you and to try to restrain his abusive behavior? For all his flaws he may understand at least at an intellectual level that his behavior is very counterproductive, and may be receptive to a request to restrain himself. – Dan Romik Oct 09 '15 at 23:34
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    I don't see a feasible option of switching advisors for the reason stated above What reason are you talking about? I don't see why that is not your first option. – Kimball Oct 10 '15 at 00:08
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    You need to stop having this advisor. – Anonymous Physicist Oct 10 '15 at 00:15
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    There's really no path to a good outcome with this advisor. I'd suggest cutting your losses and finding a new advisor, in a new field. – Zarrax Oct 10 '15 at 00:16
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    Step 1: Walk away. Step 2: Figure out step 3. – JeffE Oct 10 '15 at 01:52
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    @DanRomik that's what he replied to with "I'm not here to deal with your psychological problems", that is, he doesn't think he should change his behaviour, and that I just need to do my job. – Pandora Oct 10 '15 at 10:50
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    @Zarrax If I switch fields, I would waste 2.5 years, start in a field where I have no background, without scholarship (as I've already used the allocated amount), and probably with an advisor who is less likely to help me regarding my future in academia (from what I hear from fellow MSc/PhD students, their advisors are very passive when it comes to applying to studies or positions abroad, conferences, publishing etc., while my advisor is very active and supportive when it comes to those things). – Pandora Oct 10 '15 at 11:03
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    You should be able to walk away on good terms, if you phrase the truth right. Remind him about the conversation you had at the very beginning when he warned you about his anger issues, admit to not understanding the effect they would have on you and having overstated your ability to work through it anyway. Recognize that the incompetence he perceives in you, is actually what you have demonstrated recently, but that you believe that you are capable of much more if the circumstances were different, and that you intend to move to an environment without these complications. – Ben Voigt Oct 10 '15 at 19:46
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    And thank him for his time and effort and trying to make it work, even though it turned out that you cannot function in this environment. – Ben Voigt Oct 10 '15 at 19:48
  • You could ask if you two could correspond over email. Its a long shot though – gfjhjgfhj Oct 17 '15 at 18:59
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    @Pandora There's a similar professor in my department. Maybe your department is smaller, but here, students last about a year with that guy and then leave to go to one of the neighboring labs (same field). That's not a possibility? In one case a student lasted 3 years with him and then did the final year in a different lab. – userABC123 Oct 17 '15 at 19:16
  • https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/55803/how-to-deal-with-an-abusive-advisor?rq=1 –  Oct 08 '20 at 11:05
  • https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/55803/how-to-deal-with-an-abusive-advisor?rq=1 –  Oct 08 '20 at 11:30
  • "he's sure he could have solved it in a month/week/hour himself if he tried" That's probably true at least to some extent, and it's perfectly normal that PhD students take more time. As a postdoc, I am doing things many times faster than when I was a PhD student. That comes with experience. – Jake Jun 12 '21 at 22:18
  • https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/55803/how-to-deal-with-an-abusive-advisor?rq=1 –  Nov 05 '21 at 13:03
  • It sounds like he’s trying to run you off honestly and is choosing the passive-aggressive mental abuse route (not saying it’s warranted btw). – bob Apr 27 '23 at 02:45
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    Or possibly he seriously thinks he’s a drill sergeant and this is boot camp which is terrible but possible. Either way this is clearly not good for your mental health and you need to get out of that situation. That kind of emotional abuse can cause deep and long lasting emotional scars. – bob Apr 27 '23 at 02:47

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My advice: Go to the Chair of your mathematics department, and tell him exactly what you told us. You need to be straightforward and honest.

If not, contact the Dean of the college/or the dean of faculty affairs, and tell them what you told us. No need to tell us your problems where we can't solve them, when you can (and must) approach those who can handle these affairs.

It may seem a bit embarrassing, but I can assure you, with my years of experience, if you tell whom I mentioned (or another authority), at least some solution will transpire.

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I cannot stop typing this long response.

I'm sorry to hear that you are in this situation and I have lots of sympathy for you. Your story sounds similar to but not as horrible as mine in the previous university and the department I was in (NOT the one I list in my profile now, that is the one I'm currently in, the one I enjoy so far). I'll first give you a one line advice, then answer your question in detail. In the end, I attached my story just for your reference (can't resist telling it!).

One-Line Advice

Most likely, the best option is to peacefully walk away and find a new advisor.

Detailed Answer

Based on your description, I can hardly imagine things will be better later on if you don't take action now. You've worked reasonably hard, but have slow progress for the reasons you don't have control. There are many misunderstandings in the communication with your advisor, and most importantly you're scared of meeting with your advisor. It's impossible to produce any good research work under a scenario like this. Time to look for someone else that fits you better.

You do not specify which stage of graduate study you are in. This may affect your approach now. If you are in the early stage (before passing preliminary/qualify), you should simply walk away, pass the exams, claim your interest change and convince someone else to be your advisor. It's not unusual at all for students to change advisor at this stage. If you're in the late stage (all but dissertation), you might consider enduring the pain for another year to get your degree, the potential cost (like dropping out) of making any unsuccessful move is too huge at this stage. If you're in the middle stage(pass qualify not yet advance to candidacy), the situation is awkward. You probably should talk to some department/university authority, and find out what's the best way to continue your study. However, you need to be very careful about who you talk to and how you talk.

When you describe your scenario to any third party (other professors, department chair, ombudsman, etc.), focus on the key issues you're facing and give them enough information so they can offer reasonable solutions. Avoid ranting and complaining, even if what you're saying is absolutely correct and can provide evidences. You run into danger of convincing other people you're a lazy student with many excuses. For example, you should avoid suffering the things I suffered (see my story+rant).

Last but not least, when it comes to advisor, you should have doubts on words of senior students and most recent graduates, they are the people who rely on advisor's letter to find jobs, therefore are unlikely to tell you any bad words, even if they don't like the advisor themselves.

End of Detailed Answer

My story+rant (only for reference)

Almost the same structure as your story, three years ago I was a new graduate student (in Ph.D. program) working in computational chemistry. It was OK in the beginning. About a few months later, I found out the software and source code I was supposed to use to do the calculation of my main project was fundamentally flawed. Some physical quantities were calculated on a non-trivial wrong way and it was clear to me that any data outputted would be meaningless unless the problems were fixed. I temporarily stopped working on the project to resolve the issue with my collaborators (one postdoc., one software engineer). It was a much slower process than I expect, because the person who wrote the code, although an expert software engineer, knows relatively little about the research I did and couldn't understand why the code was wrong for a long time.

My former advisor then behaved the way like your current advisor. In our meeting, he ignored the issue I faced and only blamed me on slow progress. Very often I found the suggestion he made was wrong and the solution I figured out myself was right. Whenever I pointed out the errors in other papers, providing more than sufficient evidences, he thought I must make up excuses for failing to reproduce the result in the paper. When I wanted to pull the discussion back to the research and seek for advises, all I got is "This is not undergraduate, you're supposed to figure it out."

After many meetings like that eventually he kicked me out of the lab(where he had already kicked out more than half of his students for many different weird reasons), originally with the promised of funding me finishing masters. He gave my research project to another student. Later on he blocked my access to all the data I had, and requested me to come back to lab if the student continue on my project had any problem, otherwise he was going to cut the funding. Even worse, I worked as a TA of my former advisor the academic quarter he kicked me out of his lab, he simply found every chance I made an insignificant mistake in TA job to blamed me, and sent abusive emails.

(Here is what I did, and don't want you to repeat) Finally, I cannot endure many abusive emails like that, decided to response one of them rudely (no personal insult and threat though), accused him lying and attached with evidences. The email was cc to all his group members and some department faculties and staffs. He was scared, he turned into the graduate community center (something equivalent to counseling center), described me as a potential criminal, and asked them to physically isolated me from the department. It took a while for me to convince them that I was the victim, not the other way around. After a few weeks of long conversations via the third party, we finally achieved some compromise- He agreed to do what he promised originally (fund me 2 more months to finish M.S.).

On the other hand, despite the evidence, it was impossible for me to convince other faculties in that department to be my new advisor. Most of them believed my former advisor's words and thought I was a failing student with excuses. They set up an "advancement exam" for me, at the date one faculty who potentially supported me had a doctor appointment, to find an official reason to kicked me out of their Ph.D. program.

End of my story+rant

aparente001
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    Wow. It does sound a lot like my situation, including some aspects I didn't mention in my original post (such as potential trouble to find an alternative advisor who would support me). I indeed forgot to mention that I'm 2.5 years into my studies, and indeed only have the thesis part left to finish. I would like to ask you a few questions, if that's OK. If so, please write to me at the email listed in my profile (I couldn't find a way to contact you). – Pandora Oct 10 '15 at 12:17
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You've taken an important first step here.

A PhD student is in a dependent position with regard to the advisor; there are many parallels between the abuse that has occurred her, and the more commonly known type, family abuse.

In abusive relationships, there is often something very insidious: gradually, the abuse increases, but at each tiny incremental step, the victim rationalizes staying in the relationship, because there is so much at stake (e.g. keeping the family together, financial pressures, etc.; holding onto funding for continuing studies, intellectual satisfaction, successful thesis, letters of recommendation for future jobs, etc.). Often, the longer the abuse goes on, and the worse it gets, the harder it is to escape from it!

That is why I say that you have taken an important first step.

There are many possible next steps out of this abusive relationship. Perhaps one of the simplist is to make an appointment to see a doctor. Nowadays, many doctors ask a key question at each visit: Do you feel safe at home and at work? Even if the doctor doesn't ask you this, you can simply inform him or her that you don't feel safe at work.

Often, when one makes an appointment, the receptionist asks what the problem is. It will probably be easier for you to make something up, like an earache, than to spit out your problem over the phone to the receptionist.

The advice from @fmlin is excellent. I would add a couple more things:

  • Find a domestic violence advocacy center in your campus or your town. They are trained in assisting victims of emotional abuse.

  • Take a trusted person with you to each and every meeting you have on campus related to the problems with your advisor.

There are many possible eventual solutions to the current situation. I will describe one. My crystal ball doesn't tell me whether this will come to pass for you, but I will describe it because I imagine that right now, the paths out from your current situation probably feel extremely limited.

Student (you) enters mental health treatment, paid for by the university (which, after all, is responsible for the professor's treatment of his students).... Student takes a month or more off from studies and responsibilities, but university continues financial and moral support during this medical leave of absence.... Professor enters treatment, paid for by his health insurance.... Professor is required to send all emails to student through an intermediary.... The university arranges for another professor, in a related field, and with a talent for being emotionally supportive, to be present for ALL face to face or phone conversations between the abusive professor and the student.

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  • Unfortunately your described eventual solution where the university assumes responsibility and mediates the relationship between advisor and advisee seems out of reality in my experience in 3rd-world academia. Hopefully the OP was in such a place where sensible actions take place!.. – Scientist Jul 10 '18 at 18:04
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    @Scientist - It's very true that some countries are farther along in protecting workers' rights than others. My experience advocating for my special needs son in the education realm in the US (he has Tourette Syndrome) is that (a) when the person's rights are well defined by legislation, things are rarely handed out on a silver platter, and one often has to work pretty hard to get those rights respected in practice; and (b) when the person's rights aren't well defined, it is still a good idea to proceed according to common sense. This can help administrators... – aparente001 Jul 10 '18 at 21:27
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    ... do the right thing (morally, ethically); and it can help push toward legislative change. – aparente001 Jul 10 '18 at 21:27
  • I have never heard of any place where this described setting would happen (the university takes responsibility and pays for the treatment). This place must be paradise. – user111388 Oct 20 '20 at 10:19
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I have this problem right now with a senior collaborator. He refuses to read or understand any of my contributions, he yells during meetings about how dumb my questions are, he constantly talks over me. He doesn't have time to read emails or notes, and refuses to listen. One time he mocked my own voice back to me. It really took a toll on my mental health.

I hung on to get a paper out of all the work and stress I sunk into that awful project, and in the end all the results we got were based on a bad premise (in part, because my dumb questions about the premise maybe being flawed were never addressed. He's a defensive ass.)

Recently we brought in another senior collaborator, and having another adult in the room is making a world of difference. We're actually making better progress and might get a paper out, plus he doesn't yell in front of other men. When I talk, the other collaborator has to repeat my questions back to the abuser before he'll understand them, but whatever. The communication gets done at least.

So I would say try to get other people involved in your work. Give a seminar or journal club, or some informal talk about what you're doing. Ask other professors about what you're struggling with (even at other institutes. Go to conferences!) If you can loop in another person to the collaboration, you will shine light on the abuse and I bet he'll back off.

But if I could go back in time and undo all the work I wasted on this time sink, I would. When you work with people like this, you actually often just do bad work. There are better collaborators out there, and your career will be more successful if you work with functional people. Plus you need better mentorship than this. I've seen PhD students who come out of these situations, and they are often very bad researchers because they are so afraid to think independently and have horrible habits. This is doing damage to you, and it's hard for the pros to outweigh the cons, so keep that in mind.

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