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There are some comments that appear on this SE as well as frequently on the academic subreddits, that mention how to deal with some situation because of personal trait X.

Here is just generally one such example:

How do you handle students who speak to you in ways they would never speak to a male teacher? For example, I just had a Zoom meeting with a student. I thought he wanted to ask content questions; instead, he told me how the way I have my class set up doesn't work for him.

I do know there are studies showing problems with student evals being baised against women and minorities, so there is some difference in experiences.

However, when a colleague mentions this to someone of that group (i.e. female prof. complaining to male colleague, black prof. complaining to white colleague, etc.), what is an appropriate way, or the expected way, to respond?

On one hand, I wouldn't want to be dismissive of their experience and how they feel. On the other hand, I wouldn't want someone to feel that they are being targeted/treated unfairly for something out of their control. Having lived in many countries, it personally never felt good (and would often ruin my day) to think it was because of race/ethnicity that someone was treating me poorly, and I did find comfort knowing they were just in general a rude person to everyone. However, my own experience may not be generalizable.

So the two extremes of the situation seem to be:

  1. Respond by sympathizing, saying sorry this is happening to you, and leave it there. If trying to actually help and give advice on what to change, may seem like blaming the person.
  2. Respond by letting them know its not just happening to them, implying its not because of their personal trait but rather the student/others fault in general. This at the risk of seeming dismissive of their experience.

What would be a helpful approach to such a situation.

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    I'm not sure this is a question for academia. It occurs more generally. – Buffy Feb 12 '22 at 16:44
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    Do you think it is happening because of their gender/race/disability or not? – gib Feb 12 '22 at 16:48
  • @Buffy the larger topic of people being racist etc. happens, but the dynamics in academic settings (students, teaching, colleagues, research on the topic of student evals) seems pretty specific. – 001001 Feb 12 '22 at 16:55
  • @gib I'm not sure. Maybe sometimes it is, maybe sometimes its exacerbated by it. What I do know is, like the quote I provided, and the many times my colleagues raise this, I have experienced the same situation without their personal trait. – 001001 Feb 12 '22 at 16:57
  • OK. I don't have an answer, other than be considerate and respond in each situation as seems appropriate. I hope people can discuss this question without being outraged at opinions that are different from their own. – gib Feb 12 '22 at 17:40
  • You have, however, phrased it as a question of interpersonal relationships and communication, not as an academic question. – Buffy Feb 12 '22 at 18:26
  • @Buffy I agree it can be broad, but I am asking about discussions between faculty colleagues, wrt academic settings. i.e. not a colleague complaining about a sexist comment at the grocery store. I don't think its much different than interpersonal relationship and communication asked in questions like: https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/118465/how-do-you-build-a-healthy-and-productive-relationship-with-your-supervisor – 001001 Feb 12 '22 at 19:15
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    OK, maybe I'm blind. But the example you give does not display any bias that I can detect. Maybe there is such bias in the parts you did not quote? A student complaining about an instructor's methods is not, by itself, evidence of bias. – Dan Feb 12 '22 at 22:42
  • Agreed with Buffy - you have not provided enough specifics for that to belong to Academia.SE and not Workplace.SE. This is not to say the question is bad; it's great and I am very excited to read responses. You mention academic subreddits - maybe there are examples which are more evidently specific to academia you could ask about if you insist on keeping the question here? – Lodinn Feb 13 '22 at 03:27

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Obviously it's possible that either one of these cases could happen: there may be cases where someone encounters a hardship/problem/frustration due to race/sex discrimination, and there may be cases where a person encounters a hardship/problem/frustration that is non-discriminatory, but they incorrectly attribute this to race/sex discrimination. One of the things that makes it difficult to distinguish these cases is that the intentions of relevant actors are not usually apparent from a single case --- evidence of discrimination sometimes only emerges via statistical evidence over large classes of cases (and even then it's complicated to infer).

Since both kinds of case are possible, both kinds of responses you mention will be reasonable in different situations. I don't think there is any way to create a one-size-fits-all rule in the abstract case because the correct response is ultimately going to depend on how plausible/implausible the assertion of race/sex discrimination actually is. In each of these cases you are probably going to have to form a judgment on whether the causal-premise of the complaint is plausible or implausible, and act accordingly.

You seem to be concerned about the case where the causal-premise of discrimination is implausible. There are definitely some situations where you know for sure that the complaint has a false causal-premise. For example, there are cases where someone says something like, "People would never do X to people of type Y" or "Ys never have to put up with X" and you are a person of type Y and have regularly experienced X and/or seen X being done regularly to people of type Y. In dealing with this type of case, it is legitimate (and even helpful) to push back on a false causal-premise of the complaint, but there is some nuance required to do this best. A good method in these cases is to express sympathy for the hardship/problem/frustration, but augment this sympathy by injecting examples where people of type Y have experienced X. You can also explicitly reject their causal view of the problem if you want, and it is fairly easy to do this as a short aside in the course of making a larger statement expressing your sympathy. If you do this effectively then your examples will bolster your assistance by exhibiting empathy for the problem, but you are also giving some information that helps to correct the false causal-premise. Give the person some time to absorb this contradictory information and let the discussion stay on listening to their problem.

Ultimately, there is no incompatibility between giving sympathy for a hardship/problem/frustration, and helping to diagnose the causal basis for the problem (including disagreeing with them on the causality). As you point out, sometimes people are comforted to find that the difficulties they are experiencing are common to others, and have been successfully dealt with by others.

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