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What is the basic difference between being a researcher in a corporation, and being a researcher in a university?

Is there really any difference apart from giving lectures and grading student's exam papers?

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As a researcher in a company, I need to take issue with the current answers as reflecting a very narrow view of corporate research. This view is common in academia and reflects the typically limited experience of university researchers with the diversity of the non-academic research ecosystem.

A large amount of research in corporations is, indeed, focused on the near-term needs of products. Companies whose business model is based on widget sales will tend to put their money into better widgets, after all. There are a lot of business models, however, that are not about widget sales. Some examples:

  • Some corporations have government funded R&D as a long-term component of their business model. There are important aspects of the research space (even basic research!) that universities are often ill-suited to execute, including:
    • Research with high team complexity or high integration complexity (professors are not typically professional program managers)
    • Research that requires a high degree of quality control (grad students are often unreliable!)
    • Research involving classified or otherwise controlled information
    • Research at intermediate levels of maturity (where papers are scarce, but the relationship to widget sales is still hazy)
  • Some corporations have long-term strategic interests that they support by means of R&D investments, including university-like basic R&D. This was the old Bell Labs model (which is still going strong!) and it's still in play in many large corporations, such as IBM, Microsoft Research, etc.
  • Some corporations, especially non-profits, have missions that explicitly include research goals.
  • Some corporations are education-focused (just with different educational models), and carry out research as part of advancing their educational mission.
  • The boundaries between universities and companies can often become blurry, particularly around university "advanced ventures" organizations and in the medical space, where there's a near-fractal complexity in the academic/corporate relationships in many university medical complexes.

The life that you will lead as a researcher in these different sorts of organizations is very heterogeneous. Even within a single organization, such as the one that I work at, the goals and incentives are very different for researchers on the primary investigator track, the program manager track, and the implementer track. Even tenure can be less different than you might think, given the existence of fellows programs and the like.

So what is the basic difference?

  • All universities are primarily focused on student education, and all professor positions fall into one of a small number of career models.
  • Every other research organization is much less constrained in form, and you cannot make any assumptions until you understand their business model.
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    This is a good answer with lots of useful nuances. But I think you are to some extent committing the same crime of which you have accused others, in making inaccurate generalizations about universities. For instance, it is certainly not true that all universities are primarily focused on student education. I might say that your answer reflects a very narrow view of university research! I still gave it +1. – David Ketcheson Apr 06 '21 at 09:53
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    @DavidKetcheson I'd be interested to know of a university that does not have education as its primary focus. Many cynical people will say that is not the case for R1 universities, for example, but that doesn't match my experience with those institutions, even if it is indeed true of many individual professors. – jakebeal Apr 06 '21 at 10:06
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    Good answer, brings more balance to the thread. Any answer to this question will necessarily involve sweeping generalizations, since the question is itself general. So some amount of stereotyping is unavoidable. Liked the mention of fractals too. – AppliedAcademic Apr 06 '21 at 10:18
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    A lot of this also applies to national laboratories. – Anyon Apr 06 '21 at 13:49
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    @Anyon Absolutely! There's a whole third ecosystem of governmental organizations, whose models are often yet again quite different, let alone all the public-private hybrids. – jakebeal Apr 06 '21 at 14:32
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    While this is a good answer, I think basic research at corporations has waned over the years. Modern corporate research labs are not like Bell Labs, IBM Watson, and Xerox PARC were in the 50's to 70's. – Barmar Apr 06 '21 at 14:36
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    @Barmar Ah, the good old days! I don't think that conventional wisdom actually holds, however. First, university funding doesn't work like it used to in that era either, and there is much less funding security in universities as a result. Second, there's a lot more spending on basic research by companies than one might guess: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/data-check-us-government-share-basic-research-funding-falls-below-50 – jakebeal Apr 06 '21 at 14:52
  • "Government funded R&D as a long term component of the business model" is too narrow. Some high-tech companies (but not all) have successfully decoupled "technology acquisition" into a separate business activity or company division, independent of "doing firefighting research to fix some problem with an existing product or a new design". The objective is to only design new products using technology that you already understand, thereby removing the element of surprise from the design process. – alephzero Apr 06 '21 at 15:45
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    An excellent answer indeed. Can you comment about which research disciplines have realistic career tracks available of being a corporate researcher? E.g., I imagine this is an option for engineers, physicists, chemists, biologists, and computer scientists. What about pure mathematicians? What about social scientists, psychologists, philosophers? Etc. Sorry if this is too broad, but you sound very knowledgeable on the subject so I’m wondering what your thoughts are. – Dan Romik Apr 06 '21 at 16:27
  • @DanRomik I don't think it's bounded so much by field as flexibility within the field. I know people in all of those fields who are well-employed in fundamental research outside of the university context. If you really, really want to research one specific topic, however, it's often hard to fund that either outside or inside of a university. Then you want to be a university professor so that you can support your research by means of your teaching. – jakebeal Apr 06 '21 at 18:18
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    @jakebeal As you say there will always be some argument about this, but as my strongest example I will put forward KAUST. It has more postdocs and researchers than students, and has no undergrads. It's an excellent place to be a grad student, but that's because of the heavy focus on research. – David Ketcheson Apr 07 '21 at 06:40
  • @DavidKetcheson can we please avoid to mention specific places? Especially specific places where the excellence is fed via deprivation of human rights for the masses. ps: I would write the same if you were mentioning a similar university in the USA, or in Iran. – EarlGrey Apr 07 '21 at 08:30
  • @DavidKetcheson An unusual case indeed! Its online presence still heavily emphasizes the educational program, but perhaps that does not reflect your experience there as faculty? It sounds like it might connect with the "blurry boundaries around advanced ventures" category I mentioned. – jakebeal Apr 07 '21 at 10:19
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    This is certainly more reflecting of the reality I see as well. Both in my previous company and my current one there is a significant "base level" research going on, simply to protect a current knowledge advantage. Our margins depend on being able to meet unknown customer demands in the future, this takes a deep level of knowledge. There are also plenty of in-house incubators, whose job is mainly to pave the way for future product launches in future markets. The way knowledge and know-how is mapped and planned for is, in my opinion, far superior to any university program. But I am biased... – Stian Apr 07 '21 at 12:01
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    @jakebeal I'd be happy to discuss it more, but this comment thread is probably not the right place for that. – David Ketcheson Apr 08 '21 at 09:12
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The goals of research are different; a researcher in a corporation is expected to find solutions to specific problems that impact the functioning of the corporation. Alternatively, the corporate researcher may work towards inventions that add direct value to the corporation. Often this means developing something that other corporations do not have.

On the other hand, a university researcher is more free to choose problems that appeal to curiosity, provided the solutions add to the intellectual stature of the university. The focus would be on adding to the reputation, not profitability of the university (though reputation would indeed draw more grant money and generate profits, and therefore baby, bathwater etc.)

A more concrete difference is that universities generally value output in the form of research communications (journals, conference proceedings etc). Corporations generally place higher value ok intellectual property markers like patents/design patents.

It is sometimes argued that university research is disruptive due to its unfettered nature, while corporate research is incremental due to being confined to more norms and standards. This is true in some fields and less in others.

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    The point about disruptive research is a good one. – Buffy Apr 05 '21 at 22:14
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    In other words, more freedom for professors. – user366312 Apr 05 '21 at 23:55
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    An IBM Fellow is more like a university researcher, I think -- lots of freedom to discover the next big thing 10 years from now. But IBM is unique and that was a while ago – Owen Reynolds Apr 06 '21 at 03:04
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    @OwenReynolds Not unique. I think Bell Labs was the original. – personjerry Apr 06 '21 at 05:25
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    @user366312 True, in general. However for universities you still need to acquire funding and depending on field and institution a university can feel like a corporation as well. But yes, as guideline, university is more "free". – ljrk Apr 06 '21 at 11:11
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    I would guess, that one crucial difference is being able to publish your results in academia, and not being able to do it in business (if the the latter research contradicts company's profit plans like in those oil industries). – Askar Kalykov Apr 06 '21 at 12:46
  • @AskarKalykov: From an industry perspective, I wouldn't say that not-publishing is the default. But it is a commercial decision: do we benefit more if others cooperate with us, or do we benefit more from keeping this a trade secret? With a patent of course, publishing again becomes an option. – MSalters Apr 06 '21 at 13:01
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    Maybe only slightly related but worth it if it helps avoid a nasty surprise. Just as in academia, where a PhD doesn’t necessarily get you a position as a researcher, so it is in a more industrial setting. Lots and lots of PhDs in industry, very few of them blessed as researchers, and even fewer with opportunities for unbridled research. All for practical reasons naturally. – A rural reader Apr 06 '21 at 13:35
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    @personjerry But Bell Labs died decades ago, right? Actually, this Wikipedia quote supports this answer "On August 28, 2008, [the owner of Bell Labs] announced it was pulling out of basic science, material physics, and semiconductor research, and it will instead focus on more immediately marketable areas". – Owen Reynolds Apr 06 '21 at 13:55
  • @OwenReynolds, true, and effectively the same for IBM. There might be tiny pockets of individuals doing their own thing, but the image of scores of researchers following their personal research interests, if there is such an image, isn't accurate. – A rural reader Apr 06 '21 at 14:06
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The basic difference is that research in corporations is much more likely to be very applied, even just applied to product development. In universities (and government labs) the research is more likely to be basic research: answering questions for the sake of knowledge itself.

This isn't entirely true and some (a few) corporations do basic research but it has declined quite a lot in recent decades.

There are a couple of reasons for the split and the change, but one is that, in recent years, there has been an extreme focus in corporations on returning value to stockholders and company officers are rewarded for that and little else. This was not so prevalent in the past.

Another reason for the split, is that most government funding of research (again, not all) goes to universities and government labs, so that the stakeholders are the general citizenry, not stockholders of a corporation. So, the questions supported by government funding are more likely to be basic research questions: "what are quasars doing anyway".

Some of the exceptions might be pharmaceutical research that depends on basic knowledge before you can start to think about products. Agricultural research may be similar, but it isn't my field.

Bell labs was once the paragon of company based basic research, as was IBM research. They are mere shadows of their past glory.

Some companies are supporting things like research into encryption and AI at the moment, and some of that is fairly pure math, but they are doing so primarily for competitive reasons, not for the love of just plain "knowing stuff". Tenured faculty have few pressures to produce for competitive reasons, other than those related to reputation.


Another difference, that will matter to some, is that the pay (base salary) in corporate research is likely to be higher than in a university for people with similar qualifications. One friend of mine earned just about double what I did and it would be hard to find many distinctions in job expectations between us. He was mostly paid to think and his ideas were often useful. He was, in part, a walking advertisement for the quality of work at his companies. I think my retirement plan was much (much) better than his, but his salary was much higher. We were both quite satisfied with our decisions and could arguably have swapped positions.

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    Even in their heydays, Bell Labs and IBM still worked on the basis of generating shareholder value. The idea that there was complete autonomy is not really correct. Like Google today, there was some ability to try an idea before taking it to management, but there still wasn't the freedom that an academic has. – Graham Apr 06 '21 at 07:18
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    @Graham, I don't mean to imply there was no product research, just that they did a lot of basic research at that time. – Buffy Apr 06 '21 at 10:27
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    Let me also add the deliverables are different. In uni the end of a project is a nice report. At corporate level, you also write the report, but to call it a success the system/answer really needs to work. – lalala Apr 06 '21 at 14:22
  • In industrial research, a "nice report" has no value unless either (1) its contents feed into the product development and production process or (2) it can be published as a red herring to send competitors down a rabbit hole. (IBM's work on superconducting computer circuts based on Josephson junctions in the 1970s and 80s was a good example of (2)). The value of "telling your competitors how to improve their products" is obviously negative. Industry in a capitalist economy leaves the idea that "knowledge should benefit everyone" to naive academics! – alephzero Apr 06 '21 at 15:54
  • @alephzero I'm sorry, but you are simply incorrect. While the "article counting" aspect of academic tenure is typically absent in industry, publication has clear benefits of credibility and visibility that directly impact many business models. Likewise, pre-competitive research consortia are frequently formed explicitly around the idea that the knowledge gained will benefit everybody (including one's competitors). – jakebeal Apr 07 '21 at 00:21
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Speaking from personal experience. I've done both kinds.

As a professor, I looked for questions that intrigued me and that I thought I could answer. Sometimes they came from conversations with colleagues, from papers I read, from courses I taught, even from the time I spent playing mathematics with elementary school kids. When I found new mathematics that was publishable, I wrote papers. I changed fields often, as different things caught my fancy. Once I had tenure I felt no pressure to publish. There were fallow years when I focused on teaching and wrote textbooks (and on some administration).

As a consultant at a software company that built products that depended on the mathematics of queuing theory I learned a lot of queuing theory. Sometimes the answers I found to problems ended up in the products. Sometimes they led to talks or papers at professional conferences in the industry. Very occasionally they led to a papers in math journals. That was a bonus. If my work hadn't been useful either in products or as advertising they would not have kept me on.

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I've worked as both a researcher in academia and industry. Most answers are correct in that it varies widely by position. However, here is my experience.

Academia

You pick the question, though there are constraints based on available funding, advisor, department goals, etc. It's freedom in the sense a tagged wild animal is free; people watch you closely and want interesting things to happen but the animal can go where it wants. You'll also need to determine if the question is noteworthy or novel in some way. Once you get a result, you also need to communicate/sell the result in academic writing, which has a very established formula with limited freedom to deviate. Other forms of selling your research help, such as conferences, presentations, etc. My view here is "pre-tenure". Salary is generally lower than industry.

Industry

Your boss picks the question, though a great boss will be open to hearing better questions and ideas. It's not as important to make sure the question is novel/noteworthy, a well run company has already made this determination. Once you get a result, you need to convince people it matters. There is much more freedom here than academia - just set a meeting and "sell". The downside is that audiences tend to vary widely in technical acumen where in academia most people are experts in the field. Salary is generally higher than academia with potentially lucrative bonus potential.

I moved from industry to academia, and I'm still in the process of deciding where I'd like to end up. I like teaching, which is a nice perk of academia. Industry requires many other 'non-research' tasks, too. Some are fun like mentoring and some are a waste of time like 'town halls'. There are pros and cons to both. If you're a brilliant researcher, it won't matter where you are (Einstein was working in a patent office when he published some of his most groundbreaking papers, after all).

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    The teaching point can go both ways --- in Academia you are usually teaching students who you will never see again after they graduate, in industry you are often teaching/mentoring new colleagues you might go on to work with for a long time. – JDL Apr 06 '21 at 14:39
  • @JDL I often remark to colleagues that one of the differences between academia and industry is that in industry, the better your employees are, the longer you want them to stay, while in academia, the better your employees are, the faster you want them to leave and get better positions elsewhere. – jakebeal Apr 06 '21 at 18:21
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    You wrote "patient office". I think you meant "patent office"? – Ink blot Apr 07 '21 at 18:20