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At the end of The Matrix Reloaded and throughout The Matrix Revolutions, Smith is an actual human being outside of the Matrix. How did this happen?

Note: the question of why Smith didn't die at the end of the first movie is discussed here, but I am asking how did Smith get out of the Matrix and into a real body (so to speak)?

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It's not explained. We've got a few choices though...

He's overwritten Bane's brain.

This one seems the least plausible; Smith has somehow managed to overwrite Bane's brain and implant his own memories and consciousness upon Bane's, in much the same way that the Agents overwrite bluepill humans inside the Matrix.

Obviously this opens up many unanswered questions but we do have the two canon examples such as the Steak Scene from the original Matrix film ("I don't wanna remember nothing") and from the Matrix webcomic "Goliath" where we see that the machines have the ability to edit memory. Presumably this control of memory would give them the ability to rewrite someone's mind that was jacked in.

He's inside Bane's implants

Bane, like all Matrix-born humans has ports implanted directly into his brain and body. We see Keanu interacting with the Sentinels while disconnected from the Matrix so presumably these ports have both wireless capability and some form of power source. It's not a great leap to imagine that they also have sufficient computing capacity to carry a copy of Smith's personality and that he's basically turned Bane into a meat puppet

Ports

This explanation also goes some way to explaining how blind Keanu can 'see' Bane as Smith during their iconic fight.

They're all still in the Matrix. Just on a higher level (MWAM)

Neo's ability to see Bane despite being blinded, Neo's ability to interact with the Sentinels despite not being jacked in, images of the future (showing Trinity's fall) on the monitor behind the Architect as well as Neo's ability to exist within the matrix despite being dead/disconnected all lend great weight to the suggestion that Zion isn't any more real than Capital City.

Since we see Agents moving freely into humans inside the Matrix, if we imagine that Morpheus' "desert of the real" is in fact simply another Matrix, it then makes perfect sense that Smith can move freely into a redpill human as they do into bluepill humans in a lower level of the Matrix.

This one is obviously the least likely as the MWAM theory seems to have been debunked.

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  • Good answer, but as to the third theory, I think Neo's new abilities can be explained if the implants have some sort of wi-fi elements, which wouldn't normally allow for people to gain wireless access to the Matrix or the Sentinel control systems, but since Neo "touched the source" as the Oracle put it, he (or his implants) gained the necessary "source code" to do these things. As for images of the future, Matrix-within-a-Matrix doesn't really help, predicting the future output of a program before it's actually done the computations should in general be as hard as predicting the real world. – Hypnosifl Mar 08 '14 at 16:01
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    Matrix within a matrix works perfectly if you assume that Trinity is just a program. Then her perfectly predictable actions can be easily explained. – Valorum Mar 08 '14 at 16:31
  • What we know of the Wachowskis is that they weren't clever enough to go with the nested matrices plotline. And what we know of neurology is that Smith couldn't haven overwritten Bane in mere minutes... and probably not even with months to do it. The way that memories are encoded takes too damn long to change, and the way that personalities are encoded would take a large fraction of a lifetime. Supposing they could even be changed with mere sensory input. Now, if the interface allows him to remove the top of Bane's skull and 3d print new neurons... – John O Mar 08 '14 at 20:45
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    @Richard: As I said, there is no general method to predict the output of a program faster than it takes to actually execute all the steps of the program (unless the program is NP-complete and P=NP is true, see http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=122 for why that's unlikely). The only way I can think of to show simNeo what simTrinity was going to do would be to run two copies of the entire Matrix, freeze one when Neo was about to look at the screen, let the other run ahead, then take the results of the one that ran ahead and play them back on a screen in the first copy that had been frozen. – Hypnosifl Mar 08 '14 at 21:26
  • @Hypnosifl - You're assuming that they had to run the entire matrix in duplicate. We see however that the Mainframe has the ability to freeze and alter small sections as they did in the "deja vu" sequence. We also see (in "Goliath") that the machines can run the matrix at different speeds. On top of that, if Trinity was simTrinity then they could easily predict the outcome of her fight with simAgent since the whole thing could simply be scripted. – Valorum Mar 08 '14 at 21:42
  • @JohnO - So you lean more towards the "he's in Bane's implants" theory then, or do you have a fourth option? – Valorum Mar 08 '14 at 21:53
  • @Richard: You're talking in-universe, and of course in the context of the story they could replay small parts, but that was never shown to be part of their prediction method. I'm talking about the way programs work in reality, namely the fact that predicting the output of complex computer simulations can't generally be done without running every step of the program--there'd be no shortcut to finding the output of something like a weather simulation that exhibits "sensitive dependence on initial conditions" (the butterfly effect), for example. A simulated brain would presumably be the same. – Hypnosifl Mar 08 '14 at 22:21
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    @Hypnosifl - If the output is part of a scripted series of events then this can easily be predicted. It's only when you add "free will" that it becomes vastly more tricky. How could the Architect know she'd jump out backwards and fire five shots, not four? – Valorum Mar 08 '14 at 22:23
  • @Richard: Assuming we're talking about real computer simulations, it doesn't work that way. A weather simulation is a "scripted series of events" but if you want to start it with some initial conditions and find out what the simulated weather will be after 1 simulated month, there's no shortcut to "predicting" this besides actually running the entire program. Any attempt to simplify or approximate will likely give totally the wrong answer, because it's a chaotic system where any tiny change in initial conditions is likely to create a huge change in later states (the 'butterfly effect'). – Hypnosifl Mar 08 '14 at 22:36
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    @Richard, don't take my comment as a criticism of your answer. I upvoted. There is likely some electronics in the interface, but it's dubious that there is enough to host an AI like Smith. I lean towards the idea that the second and third movies were just absolute junk written by no-talent hacks. They passed by numerous opportunities for smart, clever, and interesting storylines to give us this crap. I mean, Neo has magic powers in the real world? That's what they're going to go with? – John O Mar 08 '14 at 23:19
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    Interesting discussion. I've never understood why people are so resistant to the idea that the "real" world is just another Matrix layer. Heck, The Architect pretty much came out and said so, even. – Omegacron Jan 28 '15 at 20:33
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    @Omegacron - I'm personally opposed to the MWAM (Matrix within a Matrix) theory because there's simply no evidence for it. The filmmakers have repeatedly stressed that the real world is the real world and the supplementary materials (comics and animatrix) all back up that assertion. It's like arguing that Star Wars is all in Luke's mind. – Valorum Jan 28 '15 at 20:35
  • A better analogy would probably be the spinning top in Inception. There are plenty of clues for either side of the argument, despite someone involved in the film giving a definitive answer. Besides, given their behavior outside of film-making, I'm not sure the Wachowskis actually live in the REAL real world. – Omegacron Jan 28 '15 at 20:43
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    @Omegacron - I disagree. The spinning top was left intentionally ambiguous. If you choose to believe the MWAM theory then you need to utterly disregard "The 2nd Renaissance" and the comic "Bits and Pieces", both described as key parts of the Matrix backstory, written by the Wachowskis themselves. – Valorum Jan 28 '15 at 20:48
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    True. But that could also be explained as the history for the Zion-level reality, without actually showing whatever's behind it. Either way, it's probably one of those questions we'll never get a real answer to. As it stands, yours is the official stance. MWAW is more of a conspiracy theory. – Omegacron Jan 28 '15 at 20:53
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Smith had become uber powerful at that point and was beyond the control of even the machines. He'd gained the ability to take over other programs and to manipulate the Matrix and break its rules in a manner similar to how Neo could.

Part of the premise of The Matrix is that the human mind could interface with a digital computer. Sensory data could be perfectly simulated and fed directly to the brain. Similarly, human neural impulses could be fed into the machine and interpreted/understood by the software. This interface is so advanced, that dying in the Matrix would result in the body dying (likewise with certain injuries in the Matrix).

The Wachowski siblings were also heavily influenced by other sci-fi works, including Ghost in the Shell, in which electronically augmented brains could be hacked into, allowing the individual's memories to be manipulated or even be temporarily taken control of remotely.

The world of The Matrix likely has similar dynamics. Smith would be akin to a "super-class-A hacker" capable of actually overwriting the personality of a human if he infects them as they're exiting the Matrix and returning to their physical body. Since the link is a two-way street, it seems plausible that an AI program could project its consciousness into a brain just as a brain can project its consciousness into the Matrix.

However, I have no idea why Bane happens to look exactly like Smith. I guess it was just dumb luck?

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Once connected to the matrix, the residual self image was the representation of the personality of the hacker hooked up into it. Consider it similar to an online profile you create. What Smith did was, he overwrote this online profile. He copied himself onto the personality of Bane. It is very similar to overwriting the contents of a file with new content. If Hackers could project their personas into the matrix, it is fairly conceivable that a program could overwrite this virtual persona. So Agent Smith didn't get out in a physical form, but he took over the personality of another human hooked up to the Matrix.

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It is explained through the course of the second and third movie that Smith has evolved or turned into a self aware program, able to rewrite his own code, so he can do things that the other agent programs cannot do. One of the things that he can do is overwrite or imprint onto other programs.

When a person is plugged into the matrix they are in a sense "running" their program in the matrix, in order to get back out, they need to download(upload) the changes made to the program back to the source code.

So, Smith made changes to the Bane program and then had it uploaded to the Source.

I don't believe that the Smith Program could communicate with (Smith)Bane while he was not plugged into the Matrix, so that tells me that Smith Copied his program onto the blank slate of Bane's existence. (for those of you who disagree please answer Was (Smith)Bane able to communicate with Smith?)

From what we see when Smith copies himself over, it appears that they turn black from the point of entry as they are being erased and then the Smith program is copied over. or you could look at it as the black is the process of overwriting the existing program.

So I would say that Smith(Original Program) never left the matrix himself.

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If you look at a human brain as a computer, like a hard drive, it can hold information and data just like a regular computer: you can edit files and can format memory. So then you would be able to edit memories and personalities.

Mr. Smith took over Bane right as the phone rang for him to be able to leave the Matrix so Mr. Smith, now in bane, just picked up the phone and was downloaded into Bane's actual brain just like we download viruses onto our computer and the virus will edit our files and change whatever it was programmed to do!

So in a quick summary: Mr. Smith acting like a computer virus infected Bane in the Matrix, then when the phone rang it opened up a link between Bane in the Matrix and Bane's real brain. Since Bane was hardwired into the matrix, it was easy to download himself to Bane's actual brain as if Bane's brain was just another computer connected to a network at home or work! Since Bane was not hardwired to anyone else in the real world, he could not infect anyone else unless he was hardwired to them!

If you have ever had a virus infect your computer, you know its not the same computer you had: it now acts differently, like its a whole different machine when in fact it basically is because it edits the files like the files in our brain that makes us us. Now the virus is making the files that make us and the computer do what it normally would do stop and now it is doing something else, what the virus wants! What Mr. Smith wants!

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It's not hard to think that smith wouldn't be able to do something to banes brain outside the matrix while he overwrit him in the matrix, he could have sent some sort of electrical shock to his brain, like brainwashing, or it could be that he erased banes mind and used said tampering to copy himself into it

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    this answer is fill with maybe's :S .. should take a look at the [help] ;) on how to post a good answer – Rocket Jan 28 '15 at 05:57