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Before you read and reply to my musings, please bear in mind as I want to make clear, I am not trying to debate whether pacifism is good or bad in the real world, I am just putting out my interpretation of Tolkien’s writings (both in the books and in his letters) to try and work out how Tolkien himself regarded pacifism, and specifically, whether he himself actually regarded Bombadil as the Hero many hold him as.

Tom Bombadil has a very strong fan base, full of people who claim he holds a secret power. A power used to withstand the Ring- and had a strong heart/power in his choice of pacifism. Some even claiming he had close to the power (in his own way) to Sauron and the Maiar themselves!

It is clear to me, from Tolkien’s writings, that Tolkien did not approve at all of Bombadil’s pacifistic approach, and regarded it as completely powerless in every way- or at least regarded it as a childish stance to take. In his notes he writes,

"But if you have, as it were taken 'a vow of poverty', renounced control, and take your delight in things for themselves without reference to yourself... the rights and wrongs of power and control might become utterly meaningless."

After reading this a few times, I can only think that Tolkien is casting pacifism in a negative light, saying it means you no longer care about rights and wrongs. And this goes completely against the overarching theme to his stories, that good is worth fighting for.

"Power to defy our Enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the earth itself. And yet we see that Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills."

Gandalf's own words, showing that it isn't power or resilience in Bombadil that make him "withstand" the ring, but actually merely a total lack of interest in the lives of others- hardly a noble trait in a world of good vs evil. Even in Bombadil’s history it is clear he was the First to come to Middle Earth, the embodiment of the Earth and the Animals, both of which are also indifferent when it comes to the War.

In this respect, Bombadil is actually painted as the most useless person in Middle Earth, in need of being looked after by those who WILL fight for good. Even the Ent’s went to battle when battle came to them, yet a true pacifist, which Bombadil is, would not raise a weapon even to save themselves-

"Bombadil will fall, Last as he was First"

~Glorfindel makes clear. It is also made clear that he is above the events on Middle Earth not through secret power, but through ignorance- if all the free folk of the world begged him to look after the ring

"he would not understand the need"

~Gandalf. Again, not a positive take.

Furthermore, and my second main point, it has become accepted that the Ring really struggled to find a hold over Bombadil and likely despaired at not being able to corrupt him as he toyed with it like a trinket. However this passage is very open to interpretation, and based on my understanding that Tolkien was not one to suffer pacifism (all the Heros’ in his stories literally fight for good at one point or another) I do not believe the Ring struggled at all to find a chink in Bombadil’s armour. I believe the Ring did not care for Bombadil the same amount as Bombadil did not care for the Ring. It saw Bombadil would be of no use whatsoever in its quest for power, and therefore did not bother to influence his mind, or even make him invisible. It allowed Bombadil to play like a child, knowing it would be handed back over to Frodo.

Thoughts?

Rand al'Thor
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  • I agree that Tolkien had a concept of just war, and would have disliked pure pacifism on principle (though, on the other hand, he was suspicious of war). But it doesn’t follow that because Tolkien disliked pacifism, he must have made Tom Bombadil venial. The Ring influenced people by corrupting their good desires into a lust for power, power to achieve those desires. Being corruptible by the ring is in no sense a sign of evil: Sam believed he could become a great gardener, Gandalf would have become a moralistic tyrant, Galadriel believed that she could be a dictator beloved by her people. – Adamant Sep 15 '16 at 22:18
  • Indeed the Ring corrupted good desires, but with Bombadil it would not even do that. Either because it would have been useless due to Bombadils inherent lack of interest, or because it had no power over Bombadil due to his pacifism. By no means did I mean to imply the Ring corrupting someone a sign of evil within them- nor imply evil was inside Bombadil. In fact if there was evil in him, then the Ring would have been able to snap him up instantly, but Bombadil has no leaning towards good nor evil in him. He is neutral- a pacifist. – Herbzical Sep 16 '16 at 00:22
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    I have nothing to back it up, but I like to think that Bombadil is a piece or aspect of Eru, split off and sent to Middle Earth simply to enjoy what Eru's song brought into being. – Joe L. Sep 16 '16 at 00:36
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    @JoeL. One of our top questions is Who or what was Tom Bombadil? – Rand al'Thor Sep 16 '16 at 00:48
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    Remember, too, that Bomadil provided a safe haven for the Hobbits in their flight from the Shire and the Nazgul. I'd say Bomadil is a representation of the peasant class. He's a source of culture, he has wonders to share, and the Enemy has at least some inclination toward leaving him alone. (So, white peasantry in particular?) – SudoSedWinifred Sep 16 '16 at 01:17
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    Bombadil is the classic DND Neutral-Neutral archetype. If you think of the ring as an amplifier, there is nothing to amplify in him. He is the value zero on the moral scale. I always felt his character was included as a reference point more than anything. It only helps to put other events in perspective. – Drunken Code Monkey Sep 16 '16 at 05:18
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    in my hy headcanon, and my friends that are tolkien fan's too, tom bombadil is just Eru tired of his sons troubles playing the "memory wipe , new body, live in peace" card. – CptEric Sep 16 '16 at 06:41
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    I remember reading one interesting interpretation of the figure: that he is basically Tolkien himself, as the author. His powers are unlimited, Middle-Earth only exists with him (he was the First and Last)... but if he intervened, there would be no story. I can't find the reference, though :) – Luaan Sep 16 '16 at 10:41
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    Power to defy our Enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the earth itself. It is Galdor who says that, not Gandalf. Immediately after saying he knows little of Bombadil. I wouldn't take that as a word of God definite. –  Sep 16 '16 at 14:04
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    You are trying to generalize the world "pacifism" and thus create a question out of nowhere. Imagine: three men met a wild bear. The first shot the pear down. The second scared the bear away with a stinky mixture he prepared just for the case. The third was eaten. Who of the three was pacifist? – Barafu Albino Sep 16 '16 at 16:56
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    Granted, I've not read the books in over a decade, but Bombadil never seemed a true pacifist to me. While he generally wasn't interested in killing, there's no indication I remember that he wouldn't defend himself or something he cared about if it was threatened with violence. However, his extraordinary powers meant he usually didn't need to result to violence. Furthermore, recall that Bombadil gave the hobbits weapons; a true pacifist wouldn't provide arms to someone, even a friend or ally. – GreenMatt Sep 16 '16 at 21:17
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    Hello all. Please do bare in mind that Tolkien himself calls Bombadil's viewpoint one of the natural pacifist. And also remember I am not asking for other idea's on Bombadil - last of all one's that equate him to Eru or Tolkien himself! These do not seem based on any solid interpretation, but please see the link Rand al'Thor shared for talk of that like. – Herbzical Sep 16 '16 at 21:59
  • @GreenMatt Thanks for taking the time to reply. I have laboured that Tolkien himself called Bombadil a pacifist, and he covered himself with the weapons- "He bade them lie there 'free to all finders, birds, beasts" with only a spell to keep Wights away. We are also assured Bombadiil would fall if facing the enemy. I like the idea he is a natural scientist, and his falling would have been in the fascination and innocent curiosity in Sauron and his evil. Bombadil is a unique and interesting character- and his lack of typical "power" makes him all the more so for me. – Herbzical Sep 16 '16 at 22:02
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    @GreenMatt: Also note that (IIRC) he did a pretty good job of stomping on the Barrow Wight that had captured the hobbits, and gave Old Man Willow a pretty good thumping. IMHO these are NOT the acts of a natural pacifist. Rather, as is said at the Council (by either Gandalf or Elrond, I think), it's that he's just not that involved with events outside his little piece of the world. – jamesqf Sep 17 '16 at 17:29
  • When you are a god it's easy to be a pacifist. – Tony Ennis Sep 18 '16 at 04:23
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    The OP's interpretation of LOTR as a parable of the need to match power against power is the same gross misunderstanding of the books that I fear Peter Jackson made, especially insofar as George Bush quoted The Two Towers in a speech justifying the Iraq war, and Jackson confirmed in interviews that LOTR was applicable to the War on Terror in his opinion. (there is a ton of xenophobia in New Zealand, and they were actually cited for refusing to hire non-white actors in non-Orcish parts, even when the source material described it). – Ber Sep 18 '16 at 08:24
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    Tolkien was very clear that in his personal religious belief the highest morality was that exemplified by Gandalf and Frodo, which is the principle of mercy, defined explicitly in opposition to action which redounds to the benefit of the character. Frodo became a pacifist at the end of the book, as well. – Ber Sep 18 '16 at 08:27
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    OP's condemnation of Bombadil's implicit pacifism as "useless" in the war is Sarumanian in its perspective -- and I think Tolkien would have said so, since he noted about Bombadil that he represents an alternative way of looking at the whole battle betweeen good vs. evil thing -- one of great importance to Tolkien when the grey areas of actual good and evil (in the "fallen world" of later ages) are taken into account. – Ber Sep 18 '16 at 08:33
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    Gandalf was clear that the Quest for the Ring was itself doomed to fail by normal military means,* and could be called derilection of duty by a standard military perspective, i.e. that of Denethor, whose crime Tolkien made clear was not just one of despair, but lack of imagination and unwillingness to put faith in Providence, do the right thing and let chips fall where they may. – Ber Sep 18 '16 at 08:39
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  • to paraphrase Tolkien's Letters -- "Frodo's quest was doomed from the moment he could not bring himself to throw the ring in his own fireplace" -- it was an act of grace, in reward for mercy against all reason towards Gollum, that saved the Fellowship. This obviously relates to Tolkien's (and Catholic) views on non-utilitarian pacifism as a high ideal that conflict with the OP's (ands most readers' perspective).
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    In summation, the OP reads a bit too much like a rant against pacifism that begs acceptance of its premise as a prerequisite to any answer. I would take the very Tolkien quote the OP cited as arguing the opposite of his assumption which OP takes as natural and irrefutable in the real world. But that is why we have applicability and "death of the author" theory, to give people freedom to make wild re-interpretations, thus increasing the beauty and diversity of the whole. – Ber Sep 18 '16 at 08:54
  • You give the impression that Gandalf and Tolkien thought poorly of Tom, but do not forget that at the end of The Lord of the Rings Gandalf sends the hobbits back to the Shire, but says that he himself is going to have a good long talk with Tom Bombadil: although he saw his weakness clearly he also seems to hold him in high regard. – PJTraill Sep 19 '16 at 23:10
  • @Ber I have clearly touched a nerve here. It is a shame, because you have a few under-explained good points in with the rest of your digressions. I made perfectly clear I am not discussing anything other than Tolkien's views on pacifism, and not making any insinuations on the real world nor my own opinion, so please stay on topic. – Herbzical Sep 24 '16 at 18:59
  • I would like more evidence that indicated Tolkien genuinely thought pacifism was preferable to fighting for good and the chance for pacifism to continue in peace. – Herbzical Sep 24 '16 at 19:01
  • @Adamant Thank you for the tip, I wasn't aware. I do feel, however, that in this instance there is no "correct" answer, so any checking I do would just be a bias towards my opinion. I bid people read through all the comments and answers to get a well rounded view of discussion. – Herbzical Sep 24 '16 at 19:03
  • @Herbzical I didn't mean to sound upset at your post (I was admittedly down mood) and modulated my reply when I turned this into an answer. I don't think Tolkien felt pacifism was effective against an evil such as Sauron, simply that it was a noble ideal. I read it as Tolkien felt that war may be necessary to prevent a greater evil but never a good thing. – Ber Sep 25 '16 at 07:35