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Suppose someone really truly wants to believe in Hashem, but is simply unable to. Even after much trying and learning Torah, he still is simply unable to believe in God. Would that person be considered a kofer? Is there anything that he can do to not be a kofer?

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    Learn more Torah – sam May 10 '13 at 01:05
  • I think he is still a kofer and and he should learn more. – MoriDowidhYa3aqov May 10 '13 at 01:05
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    What is the significance of the term "kofer"? – Isaac Moses May 10 '13 at 01:17
  • @IsaacMoses Edus etc. – Double AA May 10 '13 at 02:21
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    Daniel, what are you looking for? For a din of oneis? The way to not not believe is to believe. Are you looking for tips about believing in God? – Double AA May 10 '13 at 02:23
  • @DoubleAA, are Edus and the like affected by what's going on in someone's head or by some consequent behavior? – Isaac Moses May 10 '13 at 02:38
  • @IsaacMoses I would assume the former. That's why it's called Ikarei Emunah. – Double AA May 10 '13 at 02:44
  • Try http://www.amazon.com/Permission-To-Believe-Approaches-Existence/dp/0944070558 "Permission To Believe: Four Rational Approaches to God's Existence" by Rabbi L Kelemen. – Avrohom Yitzchok May 10 '13 at 12:31
  • http://www.divineinformation.com/featured-videos/torah-and-science-2/ try Torah and Science – Hacham Gabriel May 12 '13 at 13:24
  • what do you mean by "trying" and what does learning torah have to do with believing in Gd from a rationalistic point of view? – ray Nov 29 '14 at 18:24
  • @ray I assumed that by 'learning Torah' the OP meant learning things such as Chovos Halevavos or Moreh Nevuchim that are relevant to the issue at hand. Daniel? – הנער הזה Nov 30 '14 at 06:57
  • @Matt I read in the name of Rabbi Yeruchem of Mir that when he had doubts of emuna, he was instructed to study chumash/rashi. he tried it and said it worked. i thought daniel was going along these lines. – ray Nov 30 '14 at 07:04
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    @ray there are many sources along the same lines (most of them picking up on Chazal's statement about the Torah, that המאור שבה מחזירו למוטב), but then why did you ask 'what does learning Torah have to do with believing in God?' - it sounds like you know the answer – הנער הזה Nov 30 '14 at 07:28
  • @Matt wasnt 100% sure what he was asking. then offered my answer that he may need to pursue other avenues such as the shaar bechina of chovos halevavos rather than plain torah study or philosophy. – ray Dec 01 '14 at 07:06
  • get rid of the idols/tumah and automatically the emuna will come to the surface – ray Jan 15 '17 at 06:40
  • https://traditiononline.org/maimonides-afterlife-and-the-ignorant-heretic/ – הנער הזה Apr 04 '22 at 02:53
  • what do you mean unable to? anyone who wants to believe in G-d can do so. Not only this but the Jewish people are called "believers and children of believers" in both the chumash (source needed. I don't remember right now) and the talmud meseches shabbos 97a which means that every Jew inherently believes in G-d and it's just a matter of bringing out the belief into consciousness. Best of success. – Dude Sep 06 '22 at 18:38

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I'm going to assume that this 'inability to believe in God' comes from a conviction that God doesn't exist. The question is, should a person be faulted for disbelieving, if he thinks that believing in God is philosophically unjustified?

First off, I should mention the Rashash to Shabbos 31a, who writes that a person is only considered a heretic after fully analyzing every side of the issue, which I doubt most people have. Until then, they are merely 'non-believers', which isn't such a problem. I'll quote his words in case I'm misinterpreting them:

דכופר לא מיקרי אלא אחר החקירה בכל חלקי הסותר, אבל זה לא חקר ולא נוכח אלא שלא שלא היה מאמין

However, I doubt that too many other halakhic authorities would agree to this distinction, and I'm sure most would consider "disbelief" just as problematic as "heresy"


There are two consequences of being a disbeliever/heretic: (1) according to the Rambam (intro to Cheilek and Hilchos Teshuva ch. 4), at least, a heretic had no share in the World to Come, no matter how good of a person he may have been otherwise (2) regarding many (but not all) halachos, a heretic is treated as a non-Jew and other Jews are obligated to hate him and possibly even throw him into a pit to let him die (ibid).

Regarding (2), most contemporary poskim, most notably the Chazon Ish, have assumed that at least some, if not all, of those halakhos are no longer applicable today to a person who doesn't believe in God, because we'd attribute it to his upbringing or the inability to be properly philosophically convinced due to uniquely contemporary circumstances. See Chazon Ish Y.D. 1:6, 2:16, 2:18, as well as in 2:28 where he writes that this was also the opinion of the Chofetz Chaim. The Chazon Ish is actually not the first to pasken like this - I believe that it is the opinion of R. Yaakov Ettlinger in Shut Binyan Tzion Hachadashos 23 (though I'm not sure what to make of that title). See also R. Moshe Feinstein in Iggros Moshe O.C. 4:91:6, as well as many other later poskim who have accepted this opinion, though there will always be dissenters here and there.

There is an even earlier body of literature regarding (1). Some understand the Raavad to Hilchos Teshuva 3:7 to be saying that such a person does not automatically lose his share in the afterlife, and this position appears to be agreed upon by the Radvaz 4:187, as well as R. Yosef Albo in Sefer HaIkkarim 1:3 (though he writes that such a person still sinned).

However, there is considerable debate as to the position of the Rambam himself on this matter and whether the Raavad is correct. Abarbanel (Rosh Amana ch. 12) writes that one who doesn't believe in God would certainly not have access to Olam Haba, even if it's through no fault of his own, just as someone who drinks poison thinking it is wine would still die from the poison. There's an oft-quoted opinion of R. Chaim of Brisk that one who falls to apikores 'by accident' is still an apikores. While this isn't in R. Chaim's own writings, it's quoted by his son R. Velvel, by R. Moshe Shmeul Shapiro, by R. Yichiel Michel Feinstein, and comes up in other random places, though it's meaning and veracity are still being debated. R. Elchonon Wasserman (Kovetz Maamarim pg. 19) interprets this statement very differently: there's no such thing as being a heretic 'by accident', since the truth of God is so obvious that only a wicked person would deny it. (I personally have a lot of trouble accepting this though, especially regarding the other 12 principles besides belief in God). See here for a longer article on the topic focused on the Rambam's view.

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"God exempts a person under duress" (Bava Kama 28b).

It is certainly required to believe in Hashem, but if you try hard to believe and cannot believe, then I would say you are under duress and, for now at least, are exempt from the mitzvah to believe in Him. For the same reason, I wouldn't worry about whether you have the status of a kofer.

However, that does not mean you should stop trying. Have you read books meant to convince you that Judaism is true? Beyond a Reasonable Doubt by R' Shmuel Waldman? Soul Searching by R' Yaakov Astor? Other books, such as the stirring classic R' S.R. Hirsch's Horeb, or contemporary spiritually-oriented works such as Bilvavi Mishkan Evneh (which can be read online in English for free) or the books of R' Shalom Arush or R' Lazer Brody? The teachings of Rebbe Nachman of Breslov? The writings of the Lubavitcher Rebbe and his followers? I mention quite a few, because perhaps if you study everything, you will find a particular author who arouses your heart and inspires you to believe.

Have you spent a significant amount of time praying in your own words each day, asking Hashem to help you believe? There's nothing wrong with asking Him for a sign that He exists. You may be surprised by the result. "Everything good can be attained through prayer: Torah, devotion, holiness... everything good in all the worlds!" Likutey Moharan II, 111.

Have you consulted rabbis known for giving spiritual guidance? Nowadays, many well-known rabbis will respond to emails, even if you're not located near any rabbis.

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    Exempt from the mitzva to believe != not having the status of kofeir. Who said the status of kofeir is a punishment and not a state of being? – Double AA May 10 '13 at 03:18
  • It is a state of being, but he is trying not to be that way, so I don't think it is right to consider him a kofer, even if technically he may qualify. The only source for this is the fifth book of the Shulchan Aruch: common sense. I recognize that may not be enough to convince you! – Kordovero May 10 '13 at 03:26
  • Not when I have R Chaim Soloveitchik on my side. This is something that is discussed in Achronim at least and there are likely people both ways, but I don't think you should just be taking it for granted one way or another. – Double AA May 10 '13 at 03:30
  • Fair enough. Sorry I don't have any sources on the issue at the moment. – Kordovero May 10 '13 at 03:46
  • @Kordovero Let me be clear, this is a purely theoretical question. – Daniel May 10 '13 at 04:32
  • @doubleAa I thought the Grach was answering the Rambam, not paskening like him (the Raavad clearly argues) – ertert3terte May 10 '13 at 18:37
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"emunah" is the term you are looking for. "Emunah" is the basic understand of a jew that everything written in our sources is true an g'd is constantly with us. "emunah" must be learned specifically (like halacha), it cannot be attained otherwise. Learning chumash with rashi or a masechet in talmud might be intellectual interesting but first your emunah must be strengthened. "From where do we know that judaism is right", that everything written is true? A famous answer is the "iggeret teiman" (letter to the jemenite jews) written by Maimonides addressing specifically this question raised by the jemenite jews that wanted to convert to islam. A modern approach which had enormous impact on my believe (emunah) was "Letters to a buddhist jew" by Rav Akiva Tatz. This book answers specific questions raised by a atheist buddhist jew who even did not want to believe - he had to give it a try because of his wife! ;-) He is philosophically experienced and so is the level of this book, but it is fitting for all levels. And there is a whole chapter about "emunah". A further very good source a shiurim of "machon meir" which are specifically addressing this topic: http://www.english.machonmeir.net/torah-lessons-archive?view=jmultimedia&catid=18

Or the most famous book of all times when it comes to emunah: the kuzari. No need to comment. Every jew should read that book. (the vilna gaon had always two books with him: "Messilat jesharim" and "the kuzari". And he read them constantly).

But I fear your question was a technical halacha question and I simply missed the point totally.... ;-) sorry, if that is the case.

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  • To anybody, I was told that Torah is holy (which is true), but it is not from emunah. Where is this discussed and what could it mean? – ninamag Sep 07 '17 at 05:10
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Try different avenues. Torah study about an ox goring a cow is not going to answer your question of faith. There's even a famous disagreement between the Rambam and the Ramban whether belief in Gd precludes the commandments of the torah altogether.

Another avenue well worth pursuing is to study the divine wisdom exhibited in nature (as brought in the chovos halevavos shaar bechina). This is becoming increasingly revealed by modern technology and is building an enormously powerful argument to design in my opinion.

(I prepared a brief "tour" on this subject here for whatever it's worth)

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  • Where is this disagreement between the Rambam and Ramban? – Y     e     z Nov 30 '14 at 19:54
  • @YeZ Rambam's sefer hamitzvot, 1st mitzva (belief in Gd). the ramban has a commentary there. you never heard of this disagreement? – ray Dec 01 '14 at 07:02
  • I don't think there is any disagreement. They both count it as a Mitzvah. The Ramban may have a kashya as to how there could be such a Mitzvah, and he may defend the Bahag, but he himself clearly agrees to the Rambam. – Y     e     z Dec 01 '14 at 18:42
  • @YeZ source?... i thought i heard it differently in a shiur from rabbi becher. – ray Dec 01 '14 at 19:10
  • See Ramban's hasaga to mitzva lo sa'aseh #1 and his commentary to Anochi Hashem of parshas Yisro, in both of which he explicitly says like the Rambam – Y     e     z Dec 01 '14 at 19:32
  • @YeZ ok will try to check it out thnx. – ray Dec 01 '14 at 19:48
  • @ray what does it mean that rabbis argued whether emunah precludes the mitzvot? I ask this, because I was told that the mitzvot are holy (which I agree), but they are not from emunah. Please put a link about "a famous disagreement between the Rambam and the Ramban whether belief in Gd precludes the commandments of the torah altogether". – ninamag Sep 07 '17 at 05:15