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I would just like to know - is there a mesorah for Tehillim trop for Ashkenazim? I know that there is a Sefaradi one (I have heard them) but I would like to know if there is any Askenazi one. Thank you.

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There was an Ashkenazi Tehillim trop mesorah, but it was lost about half a century ago:

R' Yisroel Rabinovich of Monsey, NY, is a master baal koreh and baal dikduk. He told me that as a young Yerushalmi boy, he met the last living man who knew the Ashkenazi cantillations for Tehillim. Unfortunately, at the time, neither R' Rabinovich, nor anyone else around, was interested enough in kriah to take note of this mesorah.

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  • I wonder if he meant something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VjG6wLBVwQ – Double AA Jun 16 '22 at 01:18
  • @DoubleAA "נוסח תהילים שילדים נוהגים לומר" and it doesn't seem to follow the written trop. – Adám Jun 16 '22 at 04:56
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There is an ashkenazi trop for Tehillim, Mishlei, and Iyov (טעמי אמ"ת) but it was reconstructed from the Sephardic tradition. KAJ in Washington Heights chants Tehillim 29 with that trop on Friday nights. You can buy software to learn Ta'amei emet, and find sample mp3s from the software here.

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  • That recording is the same as in the link I posted in a comment under the question. It is a reconstructed trop, not original. – Double AA Apr 01 '14 at 21:20
  • @DoubleAA If it was reconstructed then it should be the same as the original -- in an ideal world, anyway. Was it reconstructed or merely constructed? – msh210 Apr 02 '14 at 01:23
  • @msh210 Attempted reconstruction? As I understand it, it was made by listening to the recordings of three different Syrians reading the Tehillim and kind of mixing it up together. Something like that. – Double AA Apr 02 '14 at 02:31
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    @DoubleAA, ah, so a m'kubal/nimsar one (at least pretty much), but not Ashkenazically. – msh210 Apr 02 '14 at 02:53
  • So it isn't Authentic Ashkenazus then but I would argue that if that's what's used by contemporary Ashkenazim to lein tehillim, it is now the Ashkenazic trop. I will edit to include that information – Yitzchak Apr 02 '14 at 16:43
  • @Yitzchak Are you basing yourself on my comments or do you have your own knowledge of this? – Double AA Apr 02 '14 at 17:13
  • Just from your comment – Yitzchak Apr 02 '14 at 17:34
  • In the recordings (track 2 @8:40) R' Perlman says that his trop was chosen from one of 3 recordings that R' Zilberman felt to be most accurate in terms of Dikduk, and varied naturally as it continued to be used by Ashkenazim. – Solomon Light Jun 20 '21 at 11:51