When Tisha B'Av immediately follows Shabbos (either because the 9th of Av is Shabbos or because the 9th of Av is Sunday), how and when do we make havdallah?
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Calendrically related: http://judaism.stackexchange.com/q/17883, http://judaism.stackexchange.com/q/17695 – msh210 Jul 27 '12 at 19:01
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from my shul newsletter
No havdala on cup, no besamim.
At 9:02pm or after, say "Baruch Hamavdil Ben Kodesh L'chol" (not with brocha). Remove shoes. (We say brocha of "Borei Meorei Haish" in shul.)
Sunday night; Havdala on cup. No candle or besamim. For Havdala, one may use grape juice or wine.
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while it isn't included in the newsletter, I would figure that the ata chonantanu is said on Saturday night and on Sunday night I would guess (guess) that one starts with hagafen. – rosends Jul 27 '12 at 14:09
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@Daniel Attah Chonantanu is said as usual Saturday night and Shmoneh Esrei is still not repeated if forgotten (OC 294:3) – Double AA Jul 27 '12 at 14:27
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@Daniel according to my shul's bulletin, after the fast, "[o]nly the two blessings "borei p'ri hagafen" and "hamavdil" are recited. The introductory verses are omitted, as are the blessings over the spices and candle. " – Charles Koppelman Jul 27 '12 at 14:29
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Havdalah is said Sunday night after the fast, omitting the blessings on spices and the flame (the latter of which is said on its own next to a flame on Saturday night). (Shulchan Aruch OC 556)
Attah Chonantanu is said as usual Saturday night and Shmoneh Esrei is still not repeated if forgotten (OC 294:3)
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